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royjak

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help with jigsaw
« on: November 08, 2009, 09:31:00 AM »
i have one and its sucks i have label drill goes down and in 10 board it is at 2000  currently  with it at 2000 now the ball hits like crap and now i am at a crossroads  one more bad session with this 200 dollar ball i might sell it at a loss avg speed 16-17 dont either go up to 1000 get it redrill or what HELP
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NoseofRI

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Re: help with jigsaw
« Reply #16 on: November 09, 2009, 10:03:01 AM »
Sounds to me that this ball is way to strong for what you bowl on and where you like to play, especially with having a Label drilling in it.  If its hitting like crap and you play up 10 that probably means its burning up and has nothing left when it hits the pocket.  Not sure what your particular reason for buying this particular ball was but my best suggestion is take it to 1000 with polish and give it a try.
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Re: help with jigsaw
« Reply #17 on: November 09, 2009, 10:20:34 AM »
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The ball you have, with the drilling you have, is pretty much designed for a total flood.


He said its drilled label. Excellent length and smooth arc is meant for floods?


  The key word in the phrase above is YOU (meaning royjak). The matchup is too strong for what he is trying to do and would work much better for him on a much heavier condition to help prevent energy loss (burn out).

 A label drilling( also called flare safe ) puts the pin to the positive side of the bowlers grip. Moving the pin towards the positive axis point inherently promotes earlier roll. MB in the track helps, but the MB in this ball isn't overly strong, so it would have a minimal effect.

 While a label drill is a good drilling, when you couple a shorter pin-to-pap with an aggressive cover, you end up with a ball designed to roll very early, which is useless unless used on the proper volume of oil.

  The balls characteristics OOB are for heavier oiled shots. The drilling, by nature, is an earlier rolling drilling, which work best on heavier oiled shots.

  Now add in the fact that the bowler is a self professed tweener who plays closer to the dry boards, and you end up with someone who needs a very heavily oiled shot for the ball to operate as intended.  That is why I mentioned surface change (polish) first, to help conserve enrgy and make the ball better on lower volumes of oil without burning up too early.

  Label drilling does not propmote excellent length for everyone, it depends on the ball in question, the bowler in question, and the lane conditions in question.  For this bowler, in this instance, this ball and drilling combination appear to be suited to a much heavier pattern.
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kidlost2000

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Re: help with jigsaw
« Reply #18 on: November 09, 2009, 12:51:51 PM »
Its also not just drilled label or over label but leverage according to the owner.

"3 3/8 DRILLING THING LABEL LEV"

Which means the pin is in a strong position, and makes me wonder where the cg is located and if there is a weight hole somewhere.

If the cg is in the palm and the ball is not an x-out the mb is located somewhere well left of the thumb I would imagine.

I usually do not prefer taking such a strong reacting ball and drilling it this aggressive.
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