Author Topic: Don't scuff a BW?? (Read 1624 times)

DerHornen · « **on:** May 01, 2007, 12:29:44 AM »

I bowled with a guy last weekend that was having trouble getting any movement out of his Black Widow. Now, this guy is not a cranker by any means, and I didn't get a close look at his layout.

I suggested that he scuff the ball to see if that would make it turn the corner. He said he was told that he wasn't supposed to adjust the surface of that particular ball. Is there anything to that? I told him that I was 99% sure that a surface adjustment on that ball should be fine.

Lightning1 · « **Reply #1 on:** May 01, 2007, 08:36:26 AM »

tis fine

have him take it to another pro-shop and bring it down to 2000 grit...

that'll give it more bite and show what the ball's made of..

another possibility is that the ball wasn't drilled properly....If the pro-shop that is telling him not to adjust the surface is the same pro-shop that drilled it, that's a good probability

chitown · « **Reply #2 on:** May 01, 2007, 09:13:01 AM »

every bowling balls surface can be adjusted. Even reactive pearl bowling balls covers can be dulled to give different reactions on the lanes.
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Noysie69 · « **Reply #3 on:** May 01, 2007, 09:55:41 AM »

I have a Black Widow with the surface adjusted down to 500 grit. I throw the ball around 18 mph though. It works really well for me.
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DerHornen · « **Reply #4 on:** May 01, 2007, 11:19:22 AM »

Next time I see him I'll tell him that I'm now 100% sure that surface adjustments are fine for the BW. It just caught me off guard that the pro shop that drilled it for him would tell him something like that.

I think the reason he was told not to scuff the ball is becuase we play on drier wood lanes. But he has pretty low revs and medium-high speed, and to compound that he plays a straighter line toward the center of the lane where there's actually some oil left, so I think the extra surface could help him out.

Thanks for the info, guys.

Edited on 5/1/2007 11:18 AM

D Scott Johnson · « **Reply #5 on:** May 01, 2007, 02:30:30 PM »

Here is an interesting story...

I took my Black Widow (lightly polished) with me to Reno for the USBC and in the team event I could not get the ball to wrinkle. It worked pretty good at the Bowlers Journal but nothing at the stadium.

So, I decide to get it dulled up a bit for singles/doubles and take it to the Hammer Booth. I tell the guy what was happening in team event and say I would like it dulled to 1000, maybe 800. He tells me that he will be glad to do it but it won't make any difference on the USBC pattern. He says that dulling the ball won't give it much more traction, he says, "If you don't have the hand to make it move, it won't move." I thank him for his advice and ask him to dull it anyway. He does with a bit of attitude.

I go for my singles/doubles squad and my dulled ball is suddenly giving me a better reaction than I had all weekend. Now, before anyone gets excited, I know that in Singles/doubles the teams in front have broken them down some, thus assisting in my reaction. But, I am 100% convinced that I would not have had as good a shot with the ball in its forementioned state as dulled up.

Plus, I have always heard from any number of sources that a high % of ball reaction is directly related to the cover. So, I was a bit put off by the "bad" advice I received at the Hammer booth.

Scott

chitown · « **Reply #6 on:** May 02, 2007, 08:25:44 AM »

quote:
Here is an interesting story...

I took my Black Widow (lightly polished) with me to Reno for the USBC and in the team event I could not get the ball to wrinkle. It worked pretty good at the Bowlers Journal but nothing at the stadium.

So, I decide to get it dulled up a bit for singles/doubles and take it to the Hammer Booth. I tell the guy what was happening in team event and say I would like it dulled to 1000, maybe 800. He tells me that he will be glad to do it but it won't make any difference on the USBC pattern. He says that dulling the ball won't give it much more traction, he says, "If you don't have the hand to make it move, it won't move." I thank him for his advice and ask him to dull it anyway. He does with a bit of attitude.

I go for my singles/doubles squad and my dulled ball is suddenly giving me a better reaction than I had all weekend. Now, before anyone gets excited, I know that in Singles/doubles the teams in front have broken them down some, thus assisting in my reaction. But, I am 100% convinced that I would not have had as good a shot with the ball in its forementioned state as dulled up.

Plus, I have always heard from any number of sources that a high % of ball reaction is directly related to the cover. So, I was a bit put off by the "bad" advice I received at the Hammer booth.

Scott

For the guy to say that putting more surface on the ball isn't going to make it grab better, just floors me. It's common sense that the duller ball is going to grip the lane a bit better.

I have a couple sets of abralon pads and a ball spinner. This makes it easy for me to adjust the cover. Then I bring a set with me in my bag in case I need to adjust the cover by hand. Of course I can't adjust the cover during play but in between events is legal.
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