Author Topic: covers absorbing oil, then dying? (Read 6948 times)

Metal_rules · « **on:** October 10, 2008, 01:19:34 AM »

i was told that the only draw back of hammer balls, is the covers absorb so much oil, that after 30-50 games the re-action is not as good. in other words the ball smoothes out, or is not as agresive as it was. even with proper cleaning, it will still absorb too much oil. please comment on this.

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KingofKings696 · « **Reply #16 on:** October 13, 2008, 03:14:38 PM »

Yea I guess its just these new balls are junk I guess heh anyone got a supply of rhinos NIB they want to get rid of

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Gazoo · « **Reply #17 on:** October 13, 2008, 06:07:54 PM »

http://www.buddiesproshop.com/product/5362/Brunswick_Purple_Rhino_Pro_Bowling_Ball.htm
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KingofKings696 · « **Reply #18 on:** October 13, 2008, 07:14:13 PM »

The real question for me is how similar will that be to my goldie which is THE best ball I have owned right up there with my xxxl.

ucumin2 · « **Reply #19 on:** October 13, 2008, 07:33:28 PM »

My 2 cents on hammer. Its pure luck. Some hook and some die. No matter how much you clean them or don't. My widow is dead but freind who has never cleaned his still hooks. I have a tnv that hooks when most have died. if you feel lucky and have money 2 burn take the chance and If not stay with brunswick

Nicanor · « **Reply #20 on:** October 13, 2008, 09:24:13 PM »

I clean my Lane 1 bowling balls and my Storm bowling balls the same way I cleaned the Bite and the Lane 1 ball and Storm bowling balls are still performing much closer to their orginal reaction as comapred to the Bite which has seemed to have died.

Not slamming the Bite. I have two of them and averaged 219 til they died. Now I picked up with the Dimension, Mighty Shift and the Street Rod with a lightly polished Buzzbomb.

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chitown · « **Reply #21 on:** October 14, 2008, 09:20:44 AM »

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I don't even use ball cleaner anymore because it won't remove oil that's been absorbed into the cover.

Illogical and irrelevant.

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I just drop my bowling ball in a bucket and place it under my bathtub faucet. I run the hot water for 20 min and take the ball out and dry it off. Let the water run over the top of the bucket into the drain. By doing this the oil from the cover floats to the top and into the drain. This process work great!

You could probably delay that process by 30-50 games if you cleaned the ball when you should.
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First, placing a ball into a bucket under a bath tub faucet for 20 min. or so is really not that hard of a process. lol

Second, cleaning the ball after every use with a ball cleaner is not going to delay having to xtract oil from the cover by 30 to 50 games. I spent many years wasting money on ball cleaner and using it religiously and it still doesn't stop or delay the oil absorbtion rate. Bowling balls absorb oil the first time they roll on the lanes.

Third, bowling ball cleaners are a BIG WASTE OF MONEY!

I've had excellent results using the hot water method of removing oil from the coverstock. The best results came from using a bucket and placing it under a bath tub faucet and running the water continuously until my hot water tank runs out of hot water. This takes about 20 min with a standard 40 gallon hot water tank. The oil comes out of the coverstock and floats to the top and over the bucket into the drain. This process is much better than just placing a ball into a bucket of hot water and letting it soak.

I will never buy ball cleaner ever again. To me it's a big waste of money and is a waste of time. I would much rather take 30 seconds to stick a ball into a bucket and turn on the hot water and wait 20 min. Then take another min. to remove the ball and wipe it off with a towel.

chitown · « **Reply #22 on:** October 14, 2008, 09:29:23 AM »

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So to get oil out I just have to put my ball in a bucket of hot water and let it sit? Is that all. My Widow solid seems dead and I clean my ball religiously. I have had for over a year now.

Place the ball into a bucket and put it under your bathtub faucet. Turn on your hot water and let it run until your out of hot water. The hot water will fill the bucket and run over the top into the drain. By doing this the oil will come out of the ball and float to the top of the bucket and run over into the drain. When the hot water runs out remove the ball from the bucket and wipe off with a towel. That's it! If it's the first time your doing this you can always repeat the process twice.

The only draw back using this method is having to wait for your hot water tank to re-heat the water if you want to do this process twice or more.

Don't worry about getting water into the holes of the ball. Water will not harm the ball one bit. I've read that some people tape the holes and what not. There's no need to do that!

I use this hot water process every 50 games, give or take a few games. That's it! I do not use ball cleaner anymore. However, I do wipe the ball off with a towel while im bowling. I do this so I don't get oil on my fingers or hands while bowling.

Bowling ball cleaners are a waste of money! Bowling ball cleaner don't xtract oil from the cover of a bowling ball. Ball cleaners are nothing but a scam.

scotts33 · « **Reply #23 on:** October 14, 2008, 09:36:12 AM »

I'm with those that feel that Ebonite products will die a slow to faster death. I had The One same with a NM that also lost of a lot more reaction that any Visionary, LM/L, Brunswick or MoRich product and therefore I do not purchase Ebonite, etal. products anymore. JMO.
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chitown · « **Reply #24 on:** October 14, 2008, 01:08:16 PM »

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I'm with those that feel that Ebonite products will die a slow to faster death. I had The One same with a NM that also lost of a lot more reaction that any Visionary, LM/L, Brunswick or MoRich product and therefore I do not purchase Ebonite, etal. products anymore. JMO.
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I do agree that Ebonite/Hammer bowling balls tend to lose reaction quicker than the other brands but that's because they have a quicker oil absorbtion rate than the other brands.

I have yet to have a ball die on me. I've had them get oil soaked quickly and lose reaction but i've always been able to get the reaction back after using the HOT WATER BATH method i've described in the other post replies.

charlest · « **Reply #25 on:** October 14, 2008, 01:52:45 PM »

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I'm with those that feel that Ebonite products will die a slow to faster death. I had The One same with a NM that also lost of a lot more reaction that any Visionary, LM/L, Brunswick or MoRich product and therefore I do not purchase Ebonite, etal. products anymore. JMO.
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I do agree that Ebonite/Hammer bowling balls tend to lose reaction quicker than the other brands but that's because they have a quicker oil absorbtion rate than the other brands.

I do not know that that is true. Sometime just before the old COlumbia was bought by Ebonite, one of the Columbia rep posted in the Columbia forum that some of their new coverstocks had an equally fast absorption rate. That was just a factor or traits that they chose not to advertise.

Being that several different resin suppliers/manufacturers are involved in providing resin to bowling ball manufacturers, I htink the difference in more in either the chemicla composition of the resin manufacturing process. Possibly even the type or brand of plasticizer used.

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tdub36tjt · « **Reply #26 on:** October 14, 2008, 01:57:19 PM »

Try putting it in the dishwasher if you have one. I felt the same way about my Complete until I put it in the dishwasher now it is the same beast it was when I bought it. Just turn the dry cycle off.

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I've had a number of balls that had the cover oil soaked causing a loss of reaction. My TNV was the first one I EVER had that totally lost ALL reaction and couldn't be revived.

Now, I know a lot of you say that it's not possible, but it did happen. It wasn't due to lack of maintence either.

It just died..period..
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