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yoshii

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How Long Does the Black Widow Last?
« on: November 06, 2007, 05:30:28 AM »
I've had my black widow for about 6 months and has been the only ball i used since, except for my rampage for lighter oil.  Lately it has not been hooking as much. I throw the same shots, i adjust to the lane conditions, i even tried it at 4 different houses. still i get the straight no movement line. im a stroker. the ball used to hook like crazy and hit like a "Hammer". go figure. but even if i get it to move an inch, it wont hit as hard anymore.  my rampage hits way harder than my widow now. is it time for a new ball? if so what can replace my widow? i want something along the same reaction and lane condition. something for medium-heavy oil would be nice.
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KDawg77

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Re: How Long Does the Black Widow Last?
« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2007, 01:31:13 PM »
Ever clean it, yosh?
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Re: How Long Does the Black Widow Last?
« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2007, 01:33:27 PM »
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Ever clean it, yosh?



K-Dawg - I was thinking the same thing: time for a series of hot water baths and/or a mild resurfacing for that ball.
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yoshii

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Re: How Long Does the Black Widow Last?
« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2007, 01:50:04 PM »
ive resurfaced it, and ive bled it out. after i bled it out, it started to hook again, but after about 20 games it stoped. i have close to about 200+ games on that ball. i bowl almost everyday. mid as well use those free games i get you know?
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Re: How Long Does the Black Widow Last?
« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2007, 01:52:50 PM »
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is it time for a new ball? if so what can replace my widow? i want something along the same reaction and lane condition. something for medium-heavy oil would be nice.


The obvious replacement would be another Widow; it's still in the current lineup.  Your longevity issues seem the norm for Ebonite's new oil-absorbing covers.

Maybe you could try another company instead.  The Break from 900 Global is another one of the near-polished, medium-heavy, strong asymmetric solid reactives that covers most of the same lane conditions as the BW.  It's got a Soaker cover on it, too, so you should get well more than 200 games out of it.

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yoshii

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Re: How Long Does the Black Widow Last?
« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2007, 01:57:56 PM »
hmm never heard of it. ill check into that. i was also wondering about the widow pearl? i like my balls to go long and snap and hit hard, one reason i love hammer.  i tried my friends no mercy beat'n.  would that be a good ball to replace my widow with? also looked at the brunswick bvp sidewinder. what are your thoughts?
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Brandon2369

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Re: How Long Does the Black Widow Last?
« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2007, 01:59:11 PM »
Give it multiple hot water baths, it will be fine after that.
Ive gave mine probably around ten atleast.
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86camaroman

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Re: How Long Does the Black Widow Last?
« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2007, 02:05:54 PM »
Yes get all the oil out. Then resurface the ball and it will be like new. You said you bled it out but you need to get it all out wich can take alot of effort even in my rejuvenator it can take over an hour of heat.
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Re: How Long Does the Black Widow Last?
« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2007, 02:25:07 PM »
Agree get all the oil out the BW is kind of high maintenance but as you have seen it is a great ball and very much worth the effort. Cleaning it after every use cuts down on the hot water baths also.
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yoshii

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Re: How Long Does the Black Widow Last?
« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2007, 11:27:01 PM »
ive cleaned it, and left it in a rejuvenator oven for about an hour. resurfaces. it just doesnt seem to hook. tried it once more today after 4 hot water baths. nothing. the same tiny movement that ive been getting for the past 3 weeks.
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Re: How Long Does the Black Widow Last?
« Reply #10 on: November 07, 2007, 07:35:08 AM »
One of my teammates has a BW his does the exact same thing as yours and he has about 300+ games on it. Just get a new one or replace it with something else. No matter how many times you bathe it, even if you get all the oil out, it's not gonna hook like it used to. Save yourself frustration.
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86camaroman

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Re: How Long Does the Black Widow Last?
« Reply #11 on: November 07, 2007, 07:43:50 AM »
I have a total nv by ebonite that people say doesnt last 20 games. I have 400 plus games on the ball I just rejuvenate it every 50 games or so and its like new.
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yoshii

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Re: How Long Does the Black Widow Last?
« Reply #12 on: November 07, 2007, 09:33:20 AM »
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One of my teammates has a BW his does the exact same thing as yours and he has about 300+ games on it. Just get a new one or replace it with something else. No matter how many times you bathe it, even if you get all the oil out, it's not gonna hook like it used to. Save yourself frustration.
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thanks. at least i know im not alone. i was thinking about trying an ebonite but still not sure. "the one" sounds like a good ball.
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Re: How Long Does the Black Widow Last?
« Reply #13 on: November 07, 2007, 02:42:14 PM »
i have a ton and i mean a ton of games on my black widow and it still hooks and hits like the first day. I just make sure to clean it often and get it baked frequently
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Re: How Long Does the Black Widow Last?
« Reply #14 on: November 07, 2007, 03:21:02 PM »
I just wanted to chime in. I had two Widow Solids, one I sold quickly so I'll disregard it. My other one however was great, well for a while at least. I always clean my stuff right after I bowl, Clean and Dull after 15 games or so.

The Widow for me just started to die out after 1000 games, hot water bath, resurfacing, baking, nothing worked. It was the first ball to significantly lose reaction on me. It became a Mild Solid on mediums for me with a meager arc on the backend. It lost what it was, surface adjustments and everything I just couldn't get it back to what it was. It just wouldn't turn on the conditions it had surprised the hell out of me on before.

This is just my first hand experience.
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