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Title: I HATE TEN PINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: crusher267658 on March 05, 2007, 04:21:34 AM
I went to go practice today. I bowled 6 games. I was throwing my Doom, BW and Action. I threw my Doom most out of the three. I averaged probably around 180-185. Each game I must have had at least 4 or 5 ten pins. If I didn't leave ten pins I probably would have averaged about at least a 220 today. I have never seen so many ringing and flat 10's in my life. I'm going to go crazy with these stupid 10's. Maybe I'll just bring a gun to the bowling alley next time and just shoot at the tens.
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High Game: 279 (Hammer Black Widow) 1/17/07

High Series: 757 (Hammer Black Widow) 1/17/07

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Doom Raw Hammer
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Title: Re: I HATE TEN PINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: bowlingmaniac017 on March 05, 2007, 12:22:43 PM
Its called adjusting and making hand position changes.
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Title: Re: I HATE TEN PINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: anotherwindup on March 05, 2007, 01:08:14 PM
Were they ringing or flat??  

You should be able to move accordingly off of both.
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Title: Re: I HATE TEN PINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: chitown on March 05, 2007, 01:08:57 PM
When you keep getting 10 pins you need to adjust the angle your coming in at.
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Title: Re: I HATE TEN PINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: crusher267658 on March 05, 2007, 01:26:15 PM
It was both ringing and flat. I was moving around but it was like no matter where it hit the pocket there would always be that darn 10 pin, even high flush there was 1 or 2 ten pin leaves. Maybe the rack set the pins kinda weird?

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High Game: 279 (Hammer Black Widow) 1/17/07

High Series: 757 (Hammer Black Widow) 1/17/07

My Current Arsenal,

Columbia 300 Action
Hammer Black Widow
Doom Raw Hammer
Faball Black Hammer

My 06-07 Bowling Stats:

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Photos Of Balls I Have Used In The Past 2 Years.

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Title: Re: I HATE TEN PINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Nodsleinad on March 05, 2007, 01:29:13 PM
part of the game  learn wha gets them out or just accept them and make them

If their wasnt a ten pin I as well as a few others here might have at 50+ 300's.  When i shot 8 last time i had all xxx's but (8) ten pin  leaves.  Dem da breaks

Nod
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Title: Re: I HATE TEN PINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: bowlingmaniac017 on March 05, 2007, 01:35:16 PM
I hardly leave 10 pins because I am really good at reading my ball reaction before getting a chance to leave one. I usually leave something else that I shouldnt. I know last night I left more of a fair share of splits and 10 pins alone, but the head pin was offspot by a good 3 inches so everytime I threw my ball I had to make sure I came in high or I wasnt getting a strike.
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Mike
Title: Re: I HATE TEN PINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: crusher267658 on March 05, 2007, 02:08:26 PM
I guess it was just one of those days with ten pins.
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High Game: 279 (Hammer Black Widow) 1/17/07

High Series: 757 (Hammer Black Widow) 1/17/07

My Current Arsenal,

Columbia 300 Action
Hammer Black Widow
Doom Raw Hammer
Faball Black Hammer

My 06-07 Bowling Stats:

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Photos Of Balls I Have Used In The Past 2 Years.

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Title: Re: I HATE TEN PINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: cnimsk on March 05, 2007, 02:11:56 PM
I left ten last week, only made 4, turning a mid 600 series into a 591. OH well. It happens. Sometimes it's just the bowling gods getting back at you. However, if you get away with taking the gun and using it on ten pins, let me know. I'd try it then. :-)

AS is....I wish you could call on a dedicated spare shooter....have a lefty for 10 pins and a righty for sevens.

Chuck
Title: Re: I HATE TEN PINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: WSUstroker on March 05, 2007, 02:59:38 PM
Ringing 10s are tougher to adjust for, but flat 10s are your fault, no doubt about it.  The ball was coming in and hitting like a wet fart, which means it could have been rolled in too much oil, too little oil, too much of an angle, etc etc.  Ringing 10s can be helped with much smaller adjustments, but generally if you leave a 10, its probably your fault.  Don't expect a strike every time it hits the pocket.
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Title: Re: I HATE TEN PINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: crusher267658 on March 05, 2007, 04:54:10 PM
quote:
Ringing 10s are tougher to adjust for, but flat 10s are your fault, no doubt about it.  The ball was coming in and hitting like a wet fart, which means it could have been rolled in too much oil, too little oil, too much of an angle, etc etc.  Ringing 10s can be helped with much smaller adjustments, but generally if you leave a 10, its probably your fault.  Don't expect a strike every time it hits the pocket.
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I'm not saying that I expect a strike everytime, if I did expect a strike everytime, I would have had a lot of 300's by now.
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High Game: 279 (Hammer Black Widow) 1/17/07

High Series: 757 (Hammer Black Widow) 1/17/07

My Current Arsenal,

Columbia 300 Action
Hammer Black Widow
Doom Raw Hammer
Faball Black Hammer

My 06-07 Bowling Stats:

http://bowlingtracker.no-ip.org:2222/personalstats/ViewStats.asp?PS_LeagueID=7414


Photos Of Balls I Have Used In The Past 2 Years.

http://s99.photobucket.com/albums/l290/crusher267658/My%20Bowling%20Balls/
Title: Re: I HATE TEN PINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: jw_6281 on March 05, 2007, 08:07:17 PM
Keep it simple and step a board right on the approach.  That is what I always do no matter what kind of ten pin it is.  It usually works for me.  But that is just me and my opinion it probably isn't worth much. lol
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Title: Re: I HATE TEN PINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: monstercrank on March 05, 2007, 08:15:39 PM
I know how you feel. I bowled in the local king of the hill tournament yesterday, and in the 3 games of qualifying I left no less than 18(most likely more) 7 pins(lefty). Had a lot of head pin messengers miss! Normally carry isn't a problem for me, but I threw the ball great, missed the flush pocket 2x and only had +38 to show for it! I tried everything I could think of, hand positions to start, then moves with my feet, then target, then both, then speed, then ball change. It just wouldn't fall... Granted I did qualify 2nd so I think most people had a problem as well lol. I think there are just some days you cant get that corner out, no matter what you do... I was throwin my black widow for 2 games, and my fury for one of them, just for refrence.
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Edited on 3/5/2007 9:14 PM
Title: Re: I HATE TEN PINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: HammerHombre on March 06, 2007, 07:17:58 AM
quote:
I left ten last week, only made 4, turning a mid 600 series into a 591. OH well. It happens.


You can prevent this from happening by accepting the 10 pins you leave standing at practice and make sure you get better.  In golf, "drive for show, putt for dough."  In bowling, "Strike for show, SPARE for dough."  This does not seem as obvious on house patterns, but bowl a PBA or Sport League and when you need a spare for 230 to win a jackpot, then you will see what I mean.  When was the last time someone was able to win a jackpot at a house league with 230?  'Nuff said.

Chris
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Cincinnati, Ohio
Hammer Amateur Staff Member
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Title: Re: I HATE TEN PINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Wallshot on March 07, 2007, 12:21:41 AM
I've always considered myself a good spare shooter but when it came to 10 pins I would go in cycles. For a month or so I couldn't miss one if I tried and then another month I'd be missing 'em like crazy. I just went through one of these phases where I missed 5-10 pins in one league session and a couple more the next night in another league. Solution: I plugged up a Blue Dot I had laying around and drilled it conventional. Since then I've missed one ten pin (out of about 20). The ball comes off the fingers and hand simultaneously and as long as I keep my arm and elbow straight in line with the target it's bye-bye 10 pin!
Title: Re: I HATE TEN PINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: urbanshaft on March 07, 2007, 12:31:25 AM
i avrg about 3-4 7 pins a game usualy even though i move around.probaly becuz i spin the ball
Title: Re: I HATE TEN PINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: HammerHombre on March 07, 2007, 07:10:48 AM
Wallshot,
Isnt our sport strange like that.  Sounds like you took the same mentality as a golfer does with their putting.  Cross handed grip, conventional, long putter, the list goes on and on.  

Glad to hear you have worked out the bug!
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Chris Heringer
Cincinnati, Ohio
Hammer Amateur Staff Member
Turbo Grips Staff Member

Title: Re: I HATE TEN PINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: crusher267658 on March 07, 2007, 03:20:51 PM
quote:
I've always considered myself a good spare shooter but when it came to 10 pins I would go in cycles. For a month or so I couldn't miss one if I tried and then another month I'd be missing 'em like crazy. I just went through one of these phases where I missed 5-10 pins in one league session and a couple more the next night in another league. Solution: I plugged up a Blue Dot I had laying around and drilled it conventional. Since then I've missed one ten pin (out of about 20). The ball comes off the fingers and hand simultaneously and as long as I keep my arm and elbow straight in line with the target it's bye-bye 10 pin!


I am going through that stage right now too. I was having problems with ten pins for about 2 or 3 weeks where I only made about 2 out of 10. I used to aim for the arrows when I threw at the 10 pins but I recently changed to just looking at the 10 pin when I throw and eversince then I am probably like somewhere around 20-25 out of 30. I know that's not too good but when I first started doing that I was like 9 for 10 with ten pins, but last week in my league I had a problem and missed a few. I don't know what it is, it's like for one month I'll be dead on with ten pins, but then the next month I'll miss like 3 out of 5 each week. It's weird.
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High Game: 279 (Hammer Black Widow) 1/17/07

High Series: 757 (Hammer Black Widow) 1/17/07

My Current Arsenal,

Columbia 300 Action
Hammer Black Widow
Doom Raw Hammer
Faball Black Hammer

My 06-07 Bowling Stats:

http://bowlingtracker.no-ip.org:2222/personalstats/ViewStats.asp?PS_LeagueID=7414


Photos Of Balls I Have Used In The Past 3 Years.

http://s99.photobucket.com/albums/l290/crusher267658/My%20Bowling%20Balls/
Title: Re: I HATE TEN PINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: A K A on March 07, 2007, 05:01:09 PM
I have studied with the great all knowing Mushtare, I am now able to adjust to 10 pins before they occur, I can sense the aura of the 10 and adjust for it during my swing, and I can now type without using a period