Author Topic: What's Next? (Read 4313 times)

Matt Fortney · « **on:** August 14, 2007, 07:20:44 AM »

Anybody know? Would really love to see a No Mercy Pearl, but with the recent intro of the BWP, I could see Hammer waiting a while to avoid overlap...a weaker solid ball in the raw Hammer line might be nice...or even a solid vibe...or maybe a new line altogether?

Matt

C-G ProShop-Carl · « **Reply #16 on:** August 16, 2007, 12:39:13 AM »

Folks, you will not be seeing particle balls out of Hoptown for a long time.
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ShermDawg · « **Reply #17 on:** August 16, 2007, 01:50:54 AM »

a new Symmetrical High line to replace the old Hawg Series would be cool to see...

Mercy's are awesome but being able to put a traditional layout on a high line ball would be pretty cool too

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bigsexyhammer · « **Reply #18 on:** August 16, 2007, 08:34:08 AM »

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i would like to see a true light oil ball

They had it, it is called the Pure, and no one bought it, so it was discontinued. Sad too, because it's a fantastic piece.

Anybody got a black one for sale?

splendorlex · « **Reply #19 on:** August 16, 2007, 09:26:10 AM »

The day I see all the pros stop using spare balls, I'll stop using my spare ball. I hear people say all the time how they can easily straighten their shot out, but then 3 shots later they accidentally get a little hand into it and hook it past the 10. Using a spare ball takes that out of the equation. And if the pros use spare balls, who do I think I am that I don't need one?

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What is the need for a spare ball? I have never understood the need. Isn't it easier to just throw it hard and straight if needed for cross alley spares?

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Dan Belcher · « **Reply #20 on:** August 16, 2007, 10:11:30 AM »

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What is the need for a spare ball? I have never understood the need. Isn't it easier to just throw it hard and straight if needed for cross alley spares?

I can't throw it straight. My natural release is to hook the ball. If I try to really straighten it out, I can't hit anything to save my life. A spare ball on the other hand doesn't hook but maybe 2 boards for me no matter how I release it. So, with a spare ball I can use my same exact release I use for my strike ball, which is very accurate and how I feel comfortable throwing it. It also guarantees you take the oil pattern basically out of the equation, which is very useful if you're in a PBA Experience league for example.

bigsexyhammer · « **Reply #21 on:** August 16, 2007, 01:09:34 PM »

I haven't ever seen Tony Reyes throw a spare ball (not to say that he hasnt) I just have only ever seen him throw a Blue Vibe.

I throw a urethane Brunswick at 10 pins...that way if it gets a big gouge in it from the gutter, I won't care so much. After all, it was just a Brunswick.

tah161 · « **Reply #22 on:** August 16, 2007, 01:30:46 PM »

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What is the need for a spare ball? I have never understood the need. Isn't it easier to just throw it hard and straight if needed for cross alley spares?

I can't throw it straight. My natural release is to hook the ball. If I try to really straighten it out, I can't hit anything to save my life. A spare ball on the other hand doesn't hook but maybe 2 boards for me no matter how I release it. So, with a spare ball I can use my same exact release I use for my strike ball, which is very accurate and how I feel comfortable throwing it. It also guarantees you take the oil pattern basically out of the equation, which is very useful if you're in a PBA Experience league for example.

If you practice enough you would get the hang of it. I use to through my regular balls straight at the 7 pin (left handed). For a while it was hard. Would always hook away, or I would dump it in the gutter. But I kept practicing it, and eventually I became good at it and the hook went away.

Matt Fortney · « **Reply #23 on:** August 16, 2007, 08:38:19 PM »

I started throwing stright at spares quite a while ago, i was maybe 8 or 9 years old. My coach started me with it, and took a while, but once i got the hang of it, i never even had the slightest desire for a spare ball. to be honest, for my own game, it'd be a waste of money. if there were a really cool one out, like the everclear for instance, i'd buy one just for display. lol.

Matt

CPA · « **Reply #24 on:** August 16, 2007, 08:41:44 PM »

I like a spare ball because it covers up any mistakes you make in the release. Also I don't want to throw my strike ball toward the corners. There is a chance for damage and it can shorten the life of a ball.

Matt Fortney · « **Reply #25 on:** August 16, 2007, 08:50:50 PM »

very true CPA, i've gotten a gouge or two. what i noticed about a spare ball when i tried one, is i was missing ten pins especially on the right side. my mistake especially shooting at the right side, is missing right, where the strike ball with minimal or even no revs on it will gently ease it's way back, and hang on the 1 board...plastic does what it's supposed to...skids. don't blame people for using them at all, works very well, most of the time better for a lot of people, but not for me. very good point though.

Matt

TWOHAND834 · « **Reply #26 on:** August 16, 2007, 09:24:36 PM »

If you want a particle ball, just drill up an Anger. Even though it is not a particle, it rolls very much like one. It comes dull and it chews through oil like nobody's business. I think what some people dont understand, is that the covers of most of todays bowling balls are SOOO aggressive, that you are stubborn enough to consider them as "just being a solid reactive". Your higher end equipment comes OOB at 2000 or 4000. Balls of the 90s came at 600 or 800 grit. What do you guys really think would happen, lets say, if you took Black Widow and took it down to 600? What do you think would happen if you took an Anger down to 500 abralon? These "just reactives" would give you that particle look you are looking for if you would just tweak surfaces a little. Particles are no longer needed due to the effect of the veneers or other additives they are putting in the covers nowadays. Plus, most the balls of today are so versatile and responsive to cover changes. There is more than enough hook in a box out there if you are just more willing to tweak coverstocks.
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six pack · « **Reply #27 on:** August 16, 2007, 09:35:52 PM »

my black widow @ 500 didn't react much different then @ 4000.and with todays agressive covers I have a harder time getting them through the heads and not burning up while the particle covers will clear the heads and give me a consistant reaction on the carry down.what some people don't understand is that particle covers are more then just heavy oil eaters.maybe the next gen of Ebo covers will be better.
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