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Equipment Boards => Hammer => Topic started by: BT808 on February 28, 2008, 12:33:57 PM

Title: Loving the Raw Hammer Toxic...
Post by: BT808 on February 28, 2008, 12:33:57 PM
I picked this ball up from a buddy just over a month ago. He litereally had like 3 games on it.. threw a new slug in it and called it a day.

In the last month I've shot a few good 700's, a 299 (9 pin) and just tonight I shot 258-300-246 = 804. This ball rolls just awesome for me, it definitely filled a whole in my game.
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Title: Re: Loving the Raw Hammer Toxic...
Post by: Matt Fortney on February 28, 2008, 08:58:50 PM
Awesome! Great shooting. I'm having the same kind of luck with the Doom. Just had it drilled, and so far so good, have 4 games on it so far...300, 237, 235, 256. Loving it!

Keep up the great bowling!

Matt
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Title: Re: Loving the Raw Hammer Toxic...
Post by: MX 267 on February 29, 2008, 11:25:29 AM
I havent figured mine out yet???  It seems that I have to really crank it to make it hook.  I'm thinking about changing the surface or getting an Anger also
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Hammer Toxic

I'm thinking I might take that new chick from Logistics. If things go well I might be showing her my O-face. "Oh... Oh... Oh!" You know what I'm talkin' about. "Oh!"
Title: Re: Loving the Raw Hammer Toxic...
Post by: Matt Fortney on February 29, 2008, 12:22:56 PM
What kind of shot are you bowling on? Normal THS? Knocking the polish off the toxic...putting like 4000 abralon on it probably wouldn't hurt.

Matt
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Title: Re: Loving the Raw Hammer Toxic...
Post by: azguy on February 29, 2008, 12:34:22 PM
I had my best from the Toxic on 2000, no polish, but that's just me.
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Title: Re: Loving the Raw Hammer Toxic...
Post by: Jesse James on February 29, 2008, 12:50:49 PM
Great bowling BT808!!

When I first got my Toxic, I couldn't figure it out at all. Took the surface down a bit and knocked off the shine. Immediately shot 278! Here lately, I've played with the surface some more, and took the surface back up, with more polish, and am now having great success bowling with it on broken down patterns with pronounced carry-down.

Don't be afraid to alter your surface until it suits your game!
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Title: Re: Loving the Raw Hammer Toxic...
Post by: MX 267 on February 29, 2008, 01:02:32 PM
I am on THS, League night, and they are synthetic lanes.  So, take it down to 2000???  The ball is just kinda unpredictable and doesnt react very much.  When it does hit the pocket, or even semi close...WOW...is all I can say
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Hammer Toxic

I'm thinking I might take that new chick from Logistics. If things go well I might be showing her my O-face. "Oh... Oh... Oh!" You know what I'm talkin' about. "Oh!"


Edited on 2/29/2008 2:03 PM
Title: Re: Loving the Raw Hammer Toxic...
Post by: Matt Fortney on February 29, 2008, 01:18:58 PM
yeah i would say take it down to 2000 or 4000, it'll just make it start up a bit sooner, and probably hook more overall. you should see a big difference.

Matt
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Title: Re: Loving the Raw Hammer Toxic...
Post by: MX 267 on February 29, 2008, 01:20:40 PM
Sweet.  Thanks.  I like how the ball reacts at the end right now.  I just want it more aggressive.  Which is more aggressive 2000 or 4000?
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Hammer Sharp Blade
Hammer Toxic

I'm thinking I might take that new chick from Logistics. If things go well I might be showing her my O-face. "Oh... Oh... Oh!" You know what I'm talkin' about. "Oh!"
Title: Re: Loving the Raw Hammer Toxic...
Post by: Matt Fortney on February 29, 2008, 01:22:37 PM
you'll have earlier/more hook with 2000, but it will be less backendy than the 4000.

and to be honest...the difference between 2000 and 4000 is not that huge...but either one is a huge difference from polish.

Matt
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Edited on 2/29/2008 2:23 PM
Title: Re: Loving the Raw Hammer Toxic...
Post by: MX 267 on February 29, 2008, 01:25:15 PM
Sorry you confused me??
The 2000 will make it be a more overall hook??
The 4000 will be more than "out of the box" and stay similar reactions to now, just more??
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Hammer Sharp Blade
Hammer Toxic

I'm thinking I might take that new chick from Logistics. If things go well I might be showing her my O-face. "Oh... Oh... Oh!" You know what I'm talkin' about. "Oh!"
Title: Re: Loving the Raw Hammer Toxic...
Post by: Matt Fortney on February 29, 2008, 01:30:29 PM
lol...sorry, re-reading it that is confusing as heck.

polish will be least overall hook...most length, most angularity

4000 will be more hook, a little less length, a little less angularity

2000 will be more hook (than 4000) less length (than 4000, and less angularity (than 4000).

The difference between polish and the abralon...huge! The difference between the two abralons...not a ton.

Hope that helped.

Matt
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Title: Re: Loving the Raw Hammer Toxic...
Post by: azguy on February 29, 2008, 01:33:52 PM
I tried mine, at first, at 4000 no polish. Went to long. Took off polish, nice....but. Went 2000 polish, nice hook, good backend. Went 2000 no polish and that, for ME..was gold. Good drive, hard backend hook was later than mid lane but not a pure snap. Hard to explain but our oil moves fast so I needed something "special" for what I see most.

Never fear mixing the cover, try one thing, might have to add polish, might need to take it off, just a great cover to play with and accepts changes great. It's one ball that you'll have to play with the cover to find the right one that is best for you.

Hope this helps.

BTW, it also depends on the polish you use. I used Factory Finish but didn't like the reaction. Changed to Magic Shine and that was better, but found, again for me, no polish was best.

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Title: Re: Loving the Raw Hammer Toxic...
Post by: MX 267 on February 29, 2008, 01:34:56 PM
lol...Thanks it did.  Just another question though.  What is the ball's condition equal to out of the box?  Is it polished, etc. ???
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Hammer Sharp Blade
Hammer Toxic

I'm thinking I might take that new chick from Logistics. If things go well I might be showing her my O-face. "Oh... Oh... Oh!" You know what I'm talkin' about. "Oh!"
Title: Re: Loving the Raw Hammer Toxic...
Post by: azguy on February 29, 2008, 02:20:45 PM
OOB is 4000 polished
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Title: Re: Loving the Raw Hammer Toxic...
Post by: MX 267 on February 29, 2008, 02:42:25 PM
Wow..Thanks for all the help!!!  Is there a way to take off the polish at home without a proshop doing it?  Or do I need to have them do it?
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Hammer Sharp Blade
Hammer Toxic

I'm thinking I might take that new chick from Logistics. If things go well I might be showing her my O-face. "Oh... Oh... Oh!" You know what I'm talkin' about. "Oh!"
Title: Re: Loving the Raw Hammer Toxic...
Post by: BT808 on February 29, 2008, 10:15:35 PM
Thanks guys...

Mine is straight out of the box. It hooks quite a bit more than I thought it would. It gets good length with decent midlane and pretty strong backend.

Also, just thought I'd throw this in there. I bowled at a house out of town tonight, first time ever being there. It has a very bad reputation for being a tough house. The high average in the house is 196. I subbed tonight and shot 638, left five 10 pins, a solid 9, and a flush 7-10 in the 10th frame the last game. Felt pretty good, everyone there thought I was really something lol.. Threw the Toxic btw.

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-Brian
Terre Haute, IN

Edited on 2/29/2008 11:18 PM
Title: Re: Loving the Raw Hammer Toxic...
Post by: Juggernaut on February 29, 2008, 10:20:28 PM
quote:
Wow..Thanks for all the help!!!  Is there a way to take off the polish at home without a proshop doing it?  Or do I need to have them do it?




  Truthfully?  It is better to let the shop do it on a spinner.  You get a much more uniform finish than you can do at home by hand.  More uniform surface means more predictable performance.
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Title: Re: Loving the Raw Hammer Toxic...
Post by: Motogp69 on March 01, 2008, 11:53:06 AM
The Toxic is personally one of the best balls I've ever owned. It's like a cheaper version of the Angular One. It reads the lanes about 2 feet sooner, but almost with the same amount of angularity and power. The Raw line is Hammers best line I think, I don't think they've made a bad ball in that line unlike the Black widow series and the joke that is the black widow pearl. Save you money on that p.o.s. and buy a toxic.