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Monster Stitch

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Pros and Cons on the Toxic
« on: September 24, 2007, 09:02:04 AM »
For all those who own one, tell me the strong and weak points
of this ball from your experiences.
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Re: Pros and Cons on the Toxic
« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2007, 05:04:47 PM »
Huge over under, needs very light oil and squeaky clean backends to hook and it hates carydown. On the up side its a very good ball to use deep into tournaments as long as there is friction to throw to.
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Re: Pros and Cons on the Toxic
« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2007, 05:29:50 PM »
For me, great ball. Took cover to 2000 and it'll take almost as much oil as my NM. Wouldn't be without one, have a second waiting to be drilled, unless I drill the BWP.
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Re: Pros and Cons on the Toxic
« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2007, 05:36:20 PM »
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Huge over under, needs very light oil and squeaky clean backends to hook and it hates carydown. On the up side its a very good ball to use deep into tournaments as long as there is friction to throw to.



That's funny, mine is unusable on anything less than medium oil, and it might be shinier than OOB.  Scuffed it with 2000 and promptly repolished it, I didn't need another medium heavy oil ball...
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Re: Pros and Cons on the Toxic
« Reply #4 on: September 24, 2007, 05:39:16 PM »
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Huge over under, needs very light oil and squeaky clean backends to hook and it hates carydown. On the up side its a very good ball to use deep into tournaments as long as there is friction to throw to.
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Hmm.. Ditto. Mine seems almost dead unless it's used on the condition stated above. I really don't like its' hit on anything other than VERY light oil. Out of the Box, this ball was a MONSTER. Next time I used it, the ball was like I was throwing a completely different ball. (and it wasn't just the lanes. I know when it's the lanes)
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Re: Pros and Cons on the Toxic
« Reply #5 on: September 24, 2007, 05:39:21 PM »
wow, then why dose mine suck so much wind? How is everyone elses drilled?
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Re: Pros and Cons on the Toxic
« Reply #6 on: September 24, 2007, 05:55:10 PM »
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wow, then why dose mine suck so much wind? How is everyone elses drilled?
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Pin above ring (4.5" from PAP) CG kicked out with a small (unneeded) hole on PAP to lower positive weight.  Original top weight was only 2.25 oz.

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Re: Pros and Cons on the Toxic
« Reply #7 on: September 24, 2007, 06:02:39 PM »
Pin above bridge, 5" pin/pap no weight hole , cg kicked 1/2 " right of Ctr Grip
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Re: Pros and Cons on the Toxic
« Reply #8 on: September 24, 2007, 06:03:20 PM »
Thats how I drilled mine, 4.5" to pap. I tried 2000, 4000 and box and they all suck. I dont have the weight hole though. Maybe I should try that to make the ball flare a little bit more, cant hurt I guess, I dont tlike the ball very much already.
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Re: Pros and Cons on the Toxic
« Reply #9 on: September 24, 2007, 07:50:07 PM »
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Huge over under, needs very light oil and squeaky clean backends to hook and it hates carydown. On the up side its a very good ball to use deep into tournaments as long as there is friction to throw to.
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I agree. My BWP is very similar in the way it needs clean lanes and backends. I do believe that this ball is better without polish as well.
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Re: Pros and Cons on the Toxic
« Reply #10 on: September 24, 2007, 07:52:05 PM »
Mine is drilled 5.5" Pin to PAP, CG kicked right, small weight hole around PAP area. My Equation2 drilled 5.5" Pin to PAP, CG kicked right, no weight hole, outhooks it by literally at least 10 boards. I like my Toxic as a spare ball. Pretty nice looking to say the least!
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Re: Pros and Cons on the Toxic
« Reply #11 on: September 24, 2007, 08:00:39 PM »
I'm glad to know I'm not the only one with this problem. there are a couple other guys I bowl with around here that love the ball and dont have the same problems that I have. I guess it's just a hit or miss ball. I'd like to drill another one because of what I have seen the ball do, I just dont need another spare ball though, lol.
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Re: Pros and Cons on the Toxic
« Reply #12 on: September 25, 2007, 10:31:16 AM »
Mine is drilled pin above fingers, 5.25" from PAP, CG stacked.  Great ball for medium oil!

Mine hates carrydown.  If I knock the polish off, it does get through heavy oil, but doesn't carry.  That's what my Black Widow is for anyway.

Mine fits nicely between my Blue Vibe and Black Widow solid.
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Re: Pros and Cons on the Toxic
« Reply #13 on: September 26, 2007, 01:40:55 PM »
I had mine drilled up with pin over the middle finger, cg under the ring finger. Had a three inch pin, and 2.5 oz of topweight. (no weight hole needed)

Pros
Cleanest ball through the heads I have ever had
Very strong backend, on medium length house shots

Cons
Carry down kills this ball.
On the PBA patterns this ball is to clean through the lane, and bites to late. With the exception of the cheetah.
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