Teen, it really depends on the bowler. Midnight Vibe for most was a meduim oil symmetric piece that for less than $100, gave bowlers the ability to move in and get the ball to recover from deeper in. From what I've seen, it's a lot of bang for what you pay for. Is it onyx vibe, by no means. But it by no means is a weak dry lane ball. Not by the numbers. Maybe your have an extreme tilt or are speed dominate or the layout didnt match up with you, but i watched the hammer rep in my area, who is a power stroker (17mph 350rpms) throw that ball successfully for most of last season.