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Equipment Boards => Hammer => Topic started by: Geetaan on August 01, 2012, 09:42:27 PM
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is the midnight vibe labeled as a light oil ball? I am just curious because I have heard some label it as a Medium ball also. I was just curious
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Midnight Vibe, along with the rest of the vibes that were/are released, are targeted for medium to light oil volumes. With the more recent releases, the coverstocks are pretty aggressive! The only "true" light-oil ball in the line-up(in my personal opinion) would be the blue hammer.
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Ever since the Emerald, all the Vibes have been able to handle medium-light to medium oil, depending on your hand and the drilling. Hammer never seems to come out and say what amount of oil they're intended to handle.
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I know that my Midnight can handle a decent amount of oil. Definitely not a dry lane ball.
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I have a 15lb used midnight vibe for sale. 60 bucks shipped. Has less than 5 games on it.
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I have one already I was just curious
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Yeah. I just bought one off eBay for 25. It is a dry lane ball. I threw it at some demo events.
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Yeah. I just bought one off eBay for 25. It is a dry lane ball. I threw it at some demo events.
You do realize that it is possible for it to be a dry lane ball for you but not for everyone else????
You may have high ball speed and/or a low rev rate or you may be used to seeing lots of oil. In any case, for the general bowler, this is not a dry lane ball.
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I'm just saying, it's on the same level as a Slingshot or Freeze which are seen as entry level balls, that are supposed to be used on on medium-light volumes of oil. Are you going to try to catch oil with this ball? Because it will roll flat on you if you don't keep it in play. It's different for everyone, but when you play on medium oil sport shots, I'm not so sure this should be your ball of choice.
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I'm just saying, it's on the same level as a Slingshot or Freeze which are seen as entry level balls, that are supposed to be used on on medium-light volumes of oil.
See, that's what I mean. I'm guessing you're just not seeing the dry that some of see quite regularly. Count yourself lucky!!
The Slingshot is 1 to 1 1/2 steps below the Freeze and the Midnight Vibe in oil handling ability. In fact, the Slingshot is one of the resin balls that can handle the lightest of oils that any resin can handle. I have had a Freeze and have the Slingshot. There have been times when the Freeze hooks far too much and too early and still I was barely able to use the Slingshot.
The Freeze and the Midnight handle much more than the Slingshot but do and can handle true medium oil.
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lol. I've seen dry bud. Come down to Kansas, one of the premier bowling states. Kingman Bowl. Wood lanes and puts down light oil house shots. You're throwing your spare ball in the middle of game 2. But I'm just saying, this ball isn't what you're going to want to throw on a medium oil pattern. Do you bowl on sport shots regularly? I'd go with something like a Wild Card, or Dark Encounter, or maybe even an Arson. Midnight Vibe isn't going to do the trick on those conditions where you have no choice but to play in the flat part of the lane.
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Sorry, just have to ask. You have flat parts and un flat parts on your premiere lanes? lol
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Teen, it really depends on the bowler. Midnight Vibe for most was a meduim oil symmetric piece that for less than $100, gave bowlers the ability to move in and get the ball to recover from deeper in. From what I've seen, it's a lot of bang for what you pay for. Is it onyx vibe, by no means. But it by no means is a weak dry lane ball. Not by the numbers. Maybe your have an extreme tilt or are speed dominate or the layout didnt match up with you, but i watched the hammer rep in my area, who is a power stroker (17mph 350rpms) throw that ball successfully for most of last season.
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Teen, it really depends on the bowler. Midnight Vibe for most was a meduim oil symmetric piece that for less than $100, gave bowlers the ability to move in and get the ball to recover from deeper in. From what I've seen, it's a lot of bang for what you pay for. Is it onyx vibe, by no means. But it by no means is a weak dry lane ball. Not by the numbers. Maybe your have an extreme tilt or are speed dominate or the layout didnt match up with you, but i watched the hammer rep in my area, who is a power stroker (17mph 350rpms) throw that ball successfully for most of last season.
Good point. I am a power stroker as well. The Onyx was VERY strong for me too. And to the other guy, I mean like really tough patterns like Mexico City. No friction at all. That's when you want your strongest ball, or a medium strong ball. When was your last practice or game on a sport shot? It is very important on flat patterns such as Shark, Mexico City, and US Open to have to right ball, and play the right line to even do moderately decent. It is different for everybody, but I'm I would not use the Vibe on medium oil patterns because of the symmetry and the fact that there is absolutely no friction whatsoever on the lane.
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Teen, it really depends on the bowler. Midnight Vibe for most was a meduim oil symmetric piece that for less than $100, gave bowlers the ability to move in and get the ball to recover from deeper in. From what I've seen, it's a lot of bang for what you pay for. Is it onyx vibe, by no means. But it by no means is a weak dry lane ball. Not by the numbers. Maybe your have an extreme tilt or are speed dominate or the layout didnt match up with you, but i watched the hammer rep in my area, who is a power stroker (17mph 350rpms) throw that ball successfully for most of last season.
Good point. I am a power stroker as well. The Onyx was VERY strong for me too. And to the other guy, I mean like really tough patterns like Mexico City. No friction at all. That's when you want your strongest ball, or a medium strong ball. When was your last practice or game on a sport shot? It is very important on flat patterns such as Shark, Mexico City, and US Open to have to right ball, and play the right line to even do moderately decent. It is different for everybody, but I'm I would not use the Vibe on medium oil patterns because of the symmetry and the fact that there is absolutely no friction whatsoever on the lane.
You make some valid points, however, "medium oil pattern" is a redundant statement. Its not about where the oil is but rather where the friction is. A bowler can make a ball that like work on a medium oil pattern so long as the have friction. Even on a sport shot, bowlers are not throwing the ball in the oil, they are trying to find friction. Friction helps the ball hook and depending on where it is will determine what ball you can use. Now if you have an extreme amount of flood in mids and backend, thats a different objective.
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Also, not trying to discourage you at all, teen, just trying to broaden your knowledge so that maybe if faced with that situation, it doesnt detur you from using said ball or a balll like it on a pattern it may not be suited for. Its all about what the lanes dictates for your style. You a great knowledge of the game for someone so young. We are just trying to give you the experience aspect of it.
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i just wanted to thank you all for your responses. I didnt think I would get this kind of amount of responses.
To add to the whole freeze, vibe vs slingshot. I have had a slingshot and it is weaker then the vibe. I also have the hook which I love, but I experimented to see how much of a different the hook is compared to the vibe. The vibe is about 4 boards stronger than the hook, thats why I asked if it was a a Medium ball. just becuase its advertised as a Med to Med-light oil ball, but for its price point is pretty strong and a good bang for your buck.