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Equipment Boards => Hammer => Topic started by: Balldoctor on April 30, 2010, 03:25:57 AM

Title: New Stuff
Post by: Balldoctor on April 30, 2010, 03:25:57 AM
Jigsaw Trap
Plague
Hardcore Grind
Midnight Vibe.
All looks good.
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Title: Re: New Stuff
Post by: Plowboy300 on April 30, 2010, 11:52:44 AM
Where did you get this info??
Just Curious as to what these balls are like- Plague & Grind
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Title: Re: New Stuff
Post by: Balldoctor on April 30, 2010, 12:02:48 PM
Pretty sure Pro Shops every where are getting this in the mail today.
I normally find out last.
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Title: Re: New Stuff
Post by: Plowboy300 on April 30, 2010, 12:04:38 PM
Hmmm... Hopefully I will receive an email from the Big Boss man himself later today about these new gems!!

If I do, I will post all of the info for everyone to see!
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Title: Re: New Stuff
Post by: Balldoctor on April 30, 2010, 12:05:20 PM
Need his number?    J/K
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Ambassador Of Bowling
Title: Re: New Stuff
Post by: Balldoctor on April 30, 2010, 12:06:17 PM
Mailers have all the numbers, no pix

Edited on 4/30/2010 12:09 PM
Title: Re: New Stuff
Post by: EboStaff10 on April 30, 2010, 01:44:21 PM
the new jigsaw is going to be a pearl so you may like it better than the others. The backlashes look to be some really good peices
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Title: Re: New Stuff
Post by: Curt_Dupre on April 30, 2010, 03:08:53 PM
Maybe you might like this one. The core has been changed, as has the cover which is now pearl.
Title: Re: New Stuff
Post by: dougb on April 30, 2010, 06:35:47 PM
I loved my Cherry Vibe and have been thinking about getting an Onyx for awhile and drilling it rico.  

Just dug up this info on the Midnight:  http://www.griplocaus.com/VibeMidnight.html

Edited on 4/30/2010 6:43 PM
Title: Re: New Stuff
Post by: azguy on April 30, 2010, 08:19:55 PM
The mailer has all sorts of great info. Cover finishes, rg/diff, the new ratings table. Ra values and explanation of 10-13 # ball core designs.

First time I've seen any company put out such great info to the shops.
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Title: Re: New Stuff
Post by: Shields on April 30, 2010, 08:42:27 PM
Can not wait to get my hands on a Midnight Vibe! The onyx is one of my favorites so I feel like I can assume the Midnight is going to be a must have!
Title: Re: New Stuff
Post by: kidlost2000 on April 30, 2010, 08:45:21 PM
A pearl Jigsaw would be great.

My original Jigsaw out of the box was so so, when I added polish it became a beast. Couldn't use it much because it was only good for the first game, sometimes two.

When I did get to use it, it carried like no other. Just needed more oil then I normally see. A pearl would be a great addition.
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Title: Re: New Stuff
Post by: Balldoctor on April 30, 2010, 09:24:42 PM
Nitro cores in the lower weight balls might be WAY unfair.
Oh well, the competition still has to catch up, again.
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Ambassador Of Bowling
Title: Re: New Stuff
Post by: Balldoctor on April 30, 2010, 09:27:18 PM
OH, BTW, I have been asked all day how I got this info.
I must confess, I have INSIDE INFO.
I walked outside to my mailbox and looked inside.
There was the info of the day.
Hammer on.
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Ambassador Of Bowling
Title: Re: New Stuff
Post by: Balldoctor on April 30, 2010, 09:29:45 PM
OH, that and my Ebonite Paper was received today makes me
 a very happy man. Thanks, Steve and ED.
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Ambassador Of Bowling
Title: Re: New Stuff
Post by: LordWalrus on May 03, 2010, 01:27:16 PM
quote:
The mailer has all sorts of great info. Cover finishes, rg/diff, the new ratings table. Ra values and explanation of 10-13 # ball core designs.

First time I've seen any company put out such great info to the shops.
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And meanwhile, over on the Hammer board, they're busy trying to shovel it back under the rug and giving stern talking-tos to those responsible for sending out the info.  Sad.
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Title: Re: New Stuff
Post by: bowlingnut76 on May 03, 2010, 03:06:11 PM
o well what you gonna do people get excited when this happens then they should of waited before they sent those flyers out its thier own fault im not on staff i would of leaked it... just names who cares its what they look like with those names that counts....i think over thier somebody leaky out the rating system on those balls thats what they might be in an uproar about just guessing o-yea i saw the plauge had a rating of 22 and jgsw tap was 19 if not mistaken the ggrind might of been 17  not 100% sure but there you go...ooops no i didnt
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Title: Re: New Stuff
Post by: urbanshaft on May 03, 2010, 08:46:21 PM
spill beans about the ebonite stuff
Title: Re: New Stuff
Post by: Balldoctor on May 05, 2010, 10:19:32 AM
OOPS, my Ebonite lips are sealed.
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Title: Re: New Stuff
Post by: zorchman on May 05, 2010, 09:28:19 PM
i have seen the paper work tonite at the proshop.no pictures but hook ratings for the balls from hammer.the plague is a liitle bit stronger by the numbers than the corner pearl.still will be interesting to see.the plague with the new core?
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Title: Re: New Stuff
Post by: McBomb on May 06, 2010, 01:55:32 AM
Well, the Bowler Store (http://"http://www.bowlerstore.com/m-9-hammer-bowling-products.aspx") website has item descriptions for the Hammer equipment and apparently the specs. Here is the information from there, I''m guessing the differential numbers are for 15# for the Hammer Plague even though it doesn''t say that there.

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Hammer Jigsaw Trap

Color: Blue/Purple/Yellow
Coverstock: Quick Corner Pearl
Core: High Mass Bias Jigsaw Core
Factory Finish: 800 / 800 / 1000 / 1000 / Polish
Performance: Good Length with High-Friction Backend
RG: 15#-2.49     RG Differential: 15#-.058
Recommended Lane Condition: Medium to Heavy Oil

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Hammer Plague

Coverstock: Level 2 Reactive
Factory Finish: 500 / 1000 / 2000 Abralon
Color: Purple/Red/Gold
Core:
Flare Potential: High
Performance:
Best Lane Condition: Medium to Heavy Oil
RG: 2.50
Differential: .055

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Hardcore Hammer Grind

Coverstock: Violent Reactive
Color: Black/Green
RG 15lbs: 2.56
Differential 15lbs: .045
Factory Finish: 800 / 800 / 1000 / 1000 / Polish

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The Midnight Vibe information is available at the Hammer website so no need to post that. Just putting this up here for anyone who didn''t see it. It looks like the Jigsaw is staying the highest performance line, while the Plague is taking the high performance line from where the Widows used to be. The Hardcore series is possibly going to be what replaces the Raw Hammer series. Interesting stuff. All of this stuff could probably change in the future, but I love Hammer products so I thought I''d let other people who do see this information. =)

Edited on 5/6/2010 1:56 AM
Title: Re: New Stuff
Post by: tenpinsniper on May 06, 2010, 02:12:09 AM
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I loved my Cherry Vibe and have been thinking about getting an Onyx for awhile and drilling it rico.  


Vibe can't effectively be drilled with a RICO Layout. When you drill your x-hole you wouldn't hit the core. Since it taper inward, so you would not add any asymmetry... therefore a waste of a good ball.
Title: Re: New Stuff
Post by: dballz on May 06, 2010, 09:02:38 AM
i may have missed this info, but when do the new nuggets come out?
Title: Re: New Stuff
Post by: McBomb on May 07, 2010, 01:06:25 AM
There are no release dates for any of the balls I listed yet.

Considering that the Midnight Vibe is already on the Hammer Site, I'm guessing it will come out later this month or early June.

Also, anyone who knows about Hammer's F.C.C. rating system here is some more information (that I'm sure can change during the testing process) on the Jigsaw Trap, Plague, and Grind:

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Hammer Jigsaw Trap

Finish = 8
Cover = 4
Core = 7
F.C.C. = 19

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Hammer Plague

Finish = 6
Cover = 8
Core = 7
F.C.C. = 21

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Hardcore Hammer Grind

Finish = 4
Cover = 8
Core = 4
F.C.C. = 16

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Some information can be drawn from this. Since the Jigsaw Core on the Corner is listed as a 9, this would suggest that the core in the Trap is modified. The other information I have is that the Plague has a new core and new cover, so can't draw too much information there. However, the coverstock is apparently on par with the Violent Reactive coverstock (by comparing the F.C.C. ratings), which is found on the original Black Widow, the Jacked, and the new Grind.

Anything else that can be found would be great. All I'm hearing is absolutely amazing things about the Plague though, could be Ball of the Year.

Any other information people have would be helpful. =)
Title: Re: New Stuff
Post by: jbuzz31 on May 07, 2010, 07:46:12 AM
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Vibe can't effectively be drilled with a RICO Layout. When you drill your x-hole you wouldn't hit the core. Since it taper inward, so you would not add any asymmetry... therefore a waste of a good ball.



Says who?
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Title: Re: New Stuff
Post by: Balldoctor on May 07, 2010, 06:37:10 PM
Will see the Midnite Vibe on Monday.
Am told it has GREAT shelf appeal.
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Ambassador Of Bowling
Title: Re: New Stuff
Post by: tenpinsniper on May 08, 2010, 02:51:01 PM
quote:
quote:


Vibe can't effectively be drilled with a RICO Layout. When you drill your x-hole you wouldn't hit the core. Since it taper inward, so you would not add any asymmetry... therefore a waste of a good ball.



Says who?


Isn't one of the main point's of the RICO Layout adding Asymmetry to the core with the weight hole? So you have to drill into the core. Next someone will try a RICO Rayzr.

Here is a post from someone who has drilled one:
http://forums.hammerbowling.com/showthread.php?p=98706&highlight=Vibe+Rico#post98706
Title: Re: New Stuff
Post by: Curt_Dupre on May 08, 2010, 03:36:37 PM
Midnight Vibe should be out later this month to the very beginning of June. All I know is that we have it, and it looks GOOD.
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Title: Re: New Stuff
Post by: Curt_Dupre on May 08, 2010, 06:23:22 PM
Good question. Considering I work for the biggest proshop in the country, we get all of the new ebonite inc. bowling balls. I am on track staff. But one of my best friends is on Hammer staff, so he brought it in for me to drill. All I said was that the ball looked good. I'll let you know how it rolls compared to the other vibes as soon as he throws it.
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Title: Re: New Stuff
Post by: jbuzz31 on May 08, 2010, 10:56:17 PM
quote:


Isn't one of the main point's of the RICO Layout adding Asymmetry to the core with the weight hole? So you have to drill into the core. Next someone will try a RICO Rayzr.

Here is a post from someone who has drilled one:
http://forums.hammerbowling.com/showthread.php?p=98706&highlight=Vibe+Rico#post98706


It's always been my understanding you drill the hole there to help keep it from flaring towards the fingers not to "create asymmetry"
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Title: Re: New Stuff
Post by: zorchman on May 09, 2010, 08:49:08 AM
everyone knows whats coming out.we even kinda know the numbers.why not just show us the new stuff and let us drool.they know we want it.lets us see it.
quit treating us like mice with people dangling cheese over our head just give us some cheese just a little bite
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Title: Re: New Stuff
Post by: left-hook on May 09, 2010, 10:05:19 AM
THE CHERRY VIBE IS AWESOME, U WILL LOVE THE OYNX! TWO WESOME BALLS TOGETHER...
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