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Nicanor

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Only the beginning of October, Bite already dead
« on: October 12, 2008, 05:02:53 AM »
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Re: Only the beginning of October, Bite already dead
« Reply #31 on: October 14, 2008, 10:46:48 AM »
I have the Solid and Pearl.  The solid has about 400 or so games on it and when I noticed it starting to lose something, I sanded it down, gave it a hot water bath, then took it in and had it resurfaced.  Looked brand new and reacted like it was.

The Pearl seemed to lose something very quickly, so I cleaned it, and still reacted the same, so I knocked the polish off and that made a huge difference.
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Nicanor

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Re: Only the beginning of October, Bite already dead
« Reply #32 on: October 14, 2008, 10:53:57 AM »
I wonder if a difference in longivity of a bowling ball can be related to ball track.  A person with a lower ball track uses so much less surface then a person with a high track possibly allowing the ball to suck up oil and lose reaction quicker then someone with a high track.




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Re: Only the beginning of October, Bite already dead
« Reply #33 on: October 14, 2008, 11:06:00 AM »
Nic: It might be a bit premature to pronounce the ball 'dead'. By your own admission, you have not attempted to rejuvenate your Bite. I can almost guarantee that the the ball is saturated, and no amount of Hook-It or scuffing with Abralon is going to over come that.

Remember, the Widow cover is very porous and absorbs oil quickly. You don't get that classic Bite reaction for nothing. Try taking the cover down to 360, bake the ball in a Revivor (more effective than soaking), and then bring the cover back up to 4000.

If the ball still doesn't react, you have a valid gripe.
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Nicanor

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Re: Only the beginning of October, Bite already dead
« Reply #34 on: October 14, 2008, 01:18:20 PM »
Thank you Steven.  It was such a great ball before it lost its reaction that I will attempt to rejuvinate it before giving up.


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Re: Only the beginning of October, Bite already dead
« Reply #35 on: October 14, 2008, 01:28:03 PM »
I know what you mean about liking the Bite. It really is a nice ball. It saved me from embarassing myself at my last Regional. I'd like to keep it's current reaction going.

Maybe yours is truly dead, but it would be a service to all of us if you could try to revive it before giving up on it.
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Re: Only the beginning of October, Bite already dead
« Reply #36 on: October 15, 2008, 06:51:54 PM »
Spider Ball Bowler...i disagree with your statement about not expecting the same ball reaction after 50 games.i have the total nv,the one, and the nvs and all of my balls have at least 200+ games on them and all react the same as when i first throw them.i have seen NO lost of reaction from neither one of my balls.i expect them to react the same when i have 100 games on them as when i first used them.i have a track up-rising with about over 75 games on it now and it still hits the same as when i used it day one.my experience of course but thats what i expewct out of my 150 to 200 dollar + bowling balls.sorry yours didnt work out. but i have never ever had any problems with my ebonite/track balls!!!

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Re: Only the beginning of October, Bite already dead
« Reply #37 on: October 16, 2008, 08:38:47 AM »
I didn't read many of the post replies so forgive me if this has already been suggested.

All bowling balls absorb oil.  Ebonite/hammer covers tend to absorb oil quicker than the other companies equipment.  However, it's easy to xtract oil from the coverstock using the hot water bath method or a revivor.  These methods for xtracting oil from bowling balls coverstocks are proving to work very well.

If you haven't tried to xtract oil from the coverstock then that's the first thing I would do.  Bowling balls cleaners are a waste of money.  Bowling ball cleaners DO NOT xtract oil from the coverstock.  So cleaning the ball with ball cleaner is not going to yield you the results your looking for.  Try the hot water bath or revivor method of xtracting oil from the cover.

I'm willing to bet your BITE will act just like new once you xtract the oil from the cover.

I've owned a lot of Hammer bowling balls over the last few years.  I've never had a single ball DIE on me.  I've had them lose that OOB reaction but have always been able to xtract the oil and get that reaction back.

It's really not that hard to place the ball into a bucket and set it under my bath tub faucet and turn the water on.  Wait 20 min, shut the water off, remove the ball and wipe it with a towel.  That's it!  Ball is like new!  

I would repeat the hot water bath every 50 games on the BITE.  This will keep the ball reacting like new all the time.  Most of the Hammer balls only need a hot water bath every 100 games or so.  The NO MERCY was the only ball that really lost it's reaction quick and needed the hot water bath after every 50 games.  I now just use the hot water bath on all my equipment once they hit the 50 game mark.
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Re: Only the beginning of October, Bite already dead
« Reply #38 on: October 18, 2008, 09:15:54 PM »
i have a BW BITE and i have no problems with the ball... Why they loose reaction?? only 3 times i give her a hot water bath in 6 months.
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Re: Only the beginning of October, Bite already dead
« Reply #39 on: October 19, 2008, 12:09:24 AM »
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Thank you Steven.  It was such a great ball before it lost its reaction that I will attempt to rejuvenate it before giving up.

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Any luck with it, Barry??
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Nicanor

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Re: Only the beginning of October, Bite already dead
« Reply #40 on: October 19, 2008, 10:19:09 AM »
Charlest,

Been in and out of the hospital and doctors office a lot since my motorcycle accident September 1st.  I'll do it this weekend and try it on Tuesday.  I would really like to get the Bite back in my arsenal.

Thank for all your replies.


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Re: Only the beginning of October, Bite already dead
« Reply #41 on: October 19, 2008, 10:40:02 AM »
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Charlest,

Been in and out of the hospital and doctors office a lot since my motorcycle accident September 1st.  I'll do it this weekend and try it on Tuesday.  I would really like to get the Bite back in my arsenal.
Thank for all your replies.
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Sorry to hear that. Hope you're feeling better.

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Re: Only the beginning of October, Bite already dead
« Reply #42 on: October 19, 2008, 04:54:49 PM »
"ball death" - this is a very controversial topic.  

This "ball death" is the MAIN reason I put every ball I drill on the ball spinner and "break" the cover.   What I mean is if I want the ball polished and it comes polished out of the box, I will still hit the cover with an abralon pad and then apply the factory finish myself.  If I want it dull....I hit the surface with the abralon to the grit I desire.  

I have had a ton of success doing this...I started this when I realized I could NEVER replicate the OOB finish and reaction after 30 games or so, when I cleaned / freshened my equipment.   Now, I can replicate every cover stock and reaction that I get from freshly punched equipment.  


I suggest everyone do this, but I KNOW many people don't want to hit the surface of a BRAND NEW BALL......buy you users choose....I know what I will continue to do!!


Good luck with all of your HAMMERS!!  

I truly don't believe that this is isolated to EBONITE/HAMMER as many would like us to believe...but I will never know, as I will never throw another piece other then ones that come from Hopkinsville, KY!!  


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Re: Only the beginning of October, Bite already dead
« Reply #43 on: October 20, 2008, 09:04:17 AM »
"But I'm getting wary of all these accounts of Hammer/Ebonite drastically reduced reaction after relatively short usage. I don't need that in equipment."

          -i dont know i have a high track, and a rev dominate lefty with a high track and my SR300 and blue vibe are still going strong. the SR300 has at least 2500 games on it with the GB 10.7 cover. i just kept it clean and rejuvenated it when i had to and it lasts. i have have had mine for 2 full seasons and this is its third but its pretty much dead now. the blue vibe has 800+ games on it and i just did the same thing. clean it, putthe polish back on when it wears off to close any little pores and rejuvenate when neccessary. basic bowling ball care.
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Re: Only the beginning of October, Bite already dead
« Reply #44 on: October 20, 2008, 09:08:18 AM »
Ebonite made ebonite junk
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Re: Only the beginning of October, Bite already dead
« Reply #45 on: October 20, 2008, 09:18:34 PM »
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the SR300 has at least 2500 games on it with the GB 10.7 cover. i just kept it clean and rejuvenated it when i had to and it lasts. i have have had mine for 2 full seasons and this is its third but its pretty much dead now.


Not to hijack, but 2500 games over two seasons is 24 games a week, every week, with just that ball, let alone other games thrown with other balls.  Either that's a gross overstatement, or you throw more games than 99.9% of all bowlers.  I have a ball with over 1500 games on it, but that's over 5+ years.
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