Post by: BowlerKidR on May 28, 2005, 01:37:07 PM
http://hammerbowling.com/411_news/detail.php?PRKey=57
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Post by: Walking E on May 29, 2005, 01:50:32 AM
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Post by: the pizz on May 29, 2005, 02:21:32 AM
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Ebonite Regional Staff
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Post by: dpunky on May 29, 2005, 06:41:40 AM
Post by: BowlerKidR on May 29, 2005, 09:25:06 AM
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I wonder what he'll be using from now on...
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I'm officially a ball junkie
Im very sad to say this, but as with other players, they all go to Brunswick for the money. Im sad to say this because i have to say that Brunswick isnt making the best stuff thats out right now, but Ebonite and Hammer really are making good stuff. Plus i dont feel that Brunswick stuff fits into PA's game very well. But only time will tell. He might also go independent and throw w/e he wants.
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I wonder which pros will be part of Hammer's staff since there is an opening?
Thats a good question. There was a post a while back, and i would love to see PBIII (Parker Bohn III) join the hammer staff. Once again, this wont happen because Brunswick is paying him tone of money. But i think his style will fit good with hammer stuff. Plus he is a Lefty
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Edited on 5/29/2005 9:17 AM
Post by: Stjosephkid on May 29, 2005, 09:40:18 AM
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You'll all be left in SHOCK & AWE!!!!
Post by: BowlerKidR on May 29, 2005, 12:04:06 PM
I never said anything about Brunswick not being good. All i said is that i dont think they are making the BEST equipment. Thats an opinion and you cant argue my opinion.
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Post by: HammerHombre on May 31, 2005, 11:05:18 AM
At this point it has been VERY hard to get bowlers to convert back to Hammer because of history.......well, that is why the call it history, because it is in the past. This is a New Era ladies and gentelmen, you might just want to give the Hammer/Ebonite equipment a chance.
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Chris Heringer
Cincinnati, Ohio
Hammer Amateur Staff Member
Post by: Bernard Byars Jr on May 31, 2005, 11:27:01 AM
Post by: shelley on May 31, 2005, 11:29:19 AM
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the T.T. 2004 winner Mike Edwards tossing there stuff, otherwise you would not see an "E" ball on tv either. So make of it what you want, just stating the obvious.
Don't forget about Jason Couch and Doug Kent. They both made the show earlier this year.
SH
Post by: LuckyLefty on May 31, 2005, 11:34:42 AM
I agree with what Chris from Hammers staff is saying. Those ARE some great BALLS!!
Brunswick was certainly dominating in 2004 -2004 season. The addition of more midlane oil or a more viscous oil whichever it was they made balls want to delay their hook was a boon to their activator lineup!
REgards,
Luckylefty
Post by: anotherwindup on May 31, 2005, 11:36:31 AM
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Back-to-Back years, Ebonite International has produced POY (Mika last year, and it should be PA this year, but if not TJ will win). When a company has a budget and sticks to it, they have no choice. I am sure at the halfway point, BG was planning for what PA was going to come to him requesting.....if it can't be done, then so be it. As the link says, they are going separate ways only because they couldnt come to terms. Mika, PA, & TJ are outstanding bowlers, along with every other bowler on tour......but hopefully this could be an eye-opener to the rest of the bowling world that the balls BG, Ed, & Ron Hickland are designing are FANTASTIC!!! And.....if you havent tried a Big Deal, Real Deal, Big Time, or XXCel, because you are a diehard B, or Columbia, or Track user......you may want to rethink your choices.
At this point it has been VERY hard to get bowlers to convert back to Hammer because of history.......well, that is why the call it history, because it is in the past. This is a New Era ladies and gentelmen, you might just want to give the Hammer/Ebonite equipment a chance.
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Chris Heringer
Cincinnati, Ohio
Hammer Amateur Staff Member
DITTO!!!
Actually Chris, let them keep throwing the Track, Columbia, AMF, Brunswick stuff....and we will continue to beat them!!!
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Jason Jenkins
'05-'06 Hammer Amateur Staff
"Nothing HITS like a Hammer"
Post by: The SuperHitMan on May 31, 2005, 11:38:36 AM
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-You'd better come with it because everytime I step on that approach I bowl to strike and I bowl to win. I don't believe in intimidation, I don't believe in fear, I believe in one pharse Win
or go Home 
and that It don't mean a thing if it aint got that swing!Nuff Said- K.C.D ICON 3:16&D-Block 4Life
You don't want me to celebrate when I strike then stop me from striking
Post by: anotherwindup on May 31, 2005, 03:20:25 PM
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Ok What has Ebonite/Hammer done to themselves to FIRST: let Mika part ways after winning POY and SECOND: Letting PA leave after his career season and probably POY? Unless they are trying to forecast that they can not possibly have back-to-back seasons of those caliber. They are either incredibly smart business men running that company or the most stupid company I ever heard of. News Flash!!!!! I can't remember any other Hammers other than PA with one if he made the show. I could be wrong, and if I am it was not more than once all season long.
DJ Archer was the only other player on Hammer staff. Hammer has a limited budget, therefore a limited staff.
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So I ask you Ebonite/Hammer Nation, Why the lack of props and respect to your POY's from last year and this year. And do not go and run behind your chair to scream that it was because of the cash. I think that you might want to pull all the stops to keep your equipment on TV. Ebonite should be thankful that they have guys like oh, I don't know the other POY possible TJ and the T.T. 2004 winner Mike Edwards tossing there stuff, otherwise you would not see an "E" ball on tv either. So make of it what you want, just stating the obvious.
The Doc
I will not run behind my chair, but I will say that I believe that money was the motivation, along with EGO. Both of the players you mentioned had great years and were rewarded for them in terms of prize fund and by being named POY.(I believe PA will be) I believe that both players thought that they should continue to be rewarded financially by the ball companies for their past achievements. Hammer was ready to sign PA as was Ebonite with Mika last year. From what I know, both were offered contracts and both were rejected. The only reason I can see that a player would reject a manufacturers contract is guaranteed money.
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Jason Jenkins
'05-'06 Hammer Amateur Staff
"Nothing HITS like a Hammer"
Post by: C300_Rye on May 31, 2005, 03:24:57 PM
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Post by: BowlerKidR on June 02, 2005, 08:43:51 PM
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a storm ball would look awesome in PA's hands
You are just Biast to Storm because you say that you are a STORM guy. I think that seriously, the best looking company for PA would be hammer. I Really dont think that any other company really has the look of PA. PA is a hard a55 bowler with an attitude, and Hammer fit him perfictly. Nothing Hits Like A Hammer. Hammer Head. They all go with the hard a55 personality that PA has and no other company really can have that.
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"Strike for show, spare for dough"
I LIKE TO BOWL
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Post by: a_ak57 on June 02, 2005, 08:49:02 PM
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a storm ball would look awesome in PA's hands
You are just Biast to Storm because you say that you are a STORM guy. I think that seriously, the best looking company for PA would be hammer. I Really dont think that any other company really has the look of PA. PA is a hard a55 bowler with an attitude, and Hammer fit him perfictly. Nothing Hits Like A Hammer. Hammer Head. They all go with the hard a55 personality that PA has and no other company really can have that.
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"Strike for show, spare for dough"
I LIKE TO BOWL
Im A Hammer Head 100%
And you're just biased to Hammer because you're a Hammer guy....[rolleyes]
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- Andy
Brunswick...........'nuff said.
Post by: BowlerKidR on June 02, 2005, 08:51:01 PM
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"Strike for show, spare for dough"
I LIKE TO BOWL
Im A Hammer Head 100%
Post by: Stjosephkid on June 02, 2005, 08:55:04 PM
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noo, not true, i throw everything....i just get hammer products for free
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"Strike for show, spare for dough"
I LIKE TO BOWL
Im A Hammer Head 100%
Um sigh that's still a bias and as your signature says "I am A HAMMER HEAD 100%"
*Sigh, Rolleyes*
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You'll all be left in SHOCK & AWE!!!!
Post by: HammerHombre on June 02, 2005, 09:37:25 PM
Good Luck PA! Thanks for showing everyone how great this equipment is!!!
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Chris Heringer
Cincinnati, Ohio
Hammer Amateur Staff Member
Post by: The SuperHitMan on June 02, 2005, 09:56:35 PM
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-You'd better come with it because everytime I step on that approach I bowl to strike and I bowl to win. I don't believe in intimidation, I don't believe in fear, I believe in one pharse Win
or go Home and that It don't mean a thing if it aint got that swing!Nuff Said- K.C.D ICON 3:16&D-Block 4Life
You don't want me to celebrate when I strike then stop me from striking
Post by: a_ak57 on June 02, 2005, 10:00:53 PM
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i was told PA is leaving hammer..reyes has left big b..and robert smith may be going to big b..
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-wHaT LiNe ArE YoU pLayInG-
Reyes wasn't on Brunswick staff. He just used their stuff. In one of the shows he made, he was throwing AMF or something.
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Brunswick...........'nuff said.
Post by: DP3 on June 02, 2005, 10:57:10 PM
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Post by: LuckyLefty on June 02, 2005, 11:36:35 PM
Where's he going?
REgards,
Luckylefty
Post by: TheDude on June 02, 2005, 11:38:12 PM
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a storm ball would look awesome in PA's hands
You are just Biast to Storm because you say that you are a STORM guy. I think that seriously, the best looking company for PA would be hammer. I Really dont think that any other company really has the look of PA. PA is a hard a55 bowler with an attitude, and Hammer fit him perfictly. Nothing Hits Like A Hammer. Hammer Head. They all go with the hard a55 personality that PA has and no other company really can have that.
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"Strike for show, spare for dough"
I LIKE TO BOWL
Im A Hammer Head 100%
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Post by: HammerHombre on June 05, 2005, 09:06:52 AM
Rudy makes exemption......
BG and Rudy are friends...........
Rudy is back with Hammer, attitude and all!!!
Just my hypothesis.
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Chris Heringer
Cincinnati, Ohio
Hammer Amateur Staff Member
Post by: DP3 on June 05, 2005, 06:27:08 PM
So Heringer, now that PA is no longer around, I guess you have the "Top Lefty on Staff" award huh?
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Respect the Game
Post by: HammerHombre on June 05, 2005, 09:42:21 PM
not sure if that is an insult or compliment
thanks either way.......I guess. Next year on tour, DJ back (assuming he is still with Hammer), and hopefully Rudy on staff.......should definately be pretty intense!!!Good luck to BG with whatever they come up with. He's a genius anyhow, can't see the guy making a bad decision.
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Chris Heringer
Cincinnati, Ohio
Hammer Amateur Staff Member
Post by: Henrik on June 06, 2005, 03:00:15 AM
Thanks,
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Roto-Grip International Staff
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