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crusher267658

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Question About Black Widow Drilling
« on: December 19, 2006, 01:45:38 AM »
Someone told me on here to get a BW drilled the same way as my DOOM but to have the MB about 2 inches right of the thumb hole. Please tell me how the ball would curve on a medium - slightly heavy oil day. I am a rever, I throw the ball somewhere around 15 mph. There is a photo of my DOOM in my signature. If you need to know any other information just let me know, I'll be more than happy to let you know.
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ShermDawg

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Re: Question About Black Widow Drilling
« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2006, 11:35:55 AM »
i wouldnt suggest drilling the widow like your doom, if your a rever, with a ball speed of around 15mph and you want it for a medium to slightly heavy condition, the best layout i have given to friends and customers alike, and i have two of my own drilled like this

put the pin about 4.5 inches from your pap (pin hopefully above ring finger)

Cg placement really doesnt matter

MB - have it no more than 2 inches out from your thumb...

this will create a clean reaction through the heads and a slight read of the mid lane with the classic backend that the black widow has been attributed with
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Re: Question About Black Widow Drilling
« Reply #2 on: December 19, 2006, 11:37:14 AM »
Got mine drilled the same way and it gives a nice smooth arc to the pocket.

Med speed around 15-16 Med to high rev.

Only problem with mine is when the up and in guys push the oil down to my break point this ball squirts and doesn't recover to the pocket.

Hope it helps
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crusher267658

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Re: Question About Black Widow Drilling
« Reply #3 on: December 19, 2006, 01:05:38 PM »
Thanks guys. I will take your info into consideration along with other peoples suggestions.
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Re: Question About Black Widow Drilling
« Reply #4 on: December 19, 2006, 01:24:08 PM »
I'm the one who suggested that you drill it with the same pin location as your Doom.  You said that this pin location has worked good for you on your Doom so keep that same location.  Then just kick the MB right of your thumb like I suggested.  This will give you great separation between both of the balls.

I look at this a little different than a lot of other bowlers.  I prefer to use the same exact pin location on each ball in my arsenal.  I just let the cover and cores separate the reactions between the balls.

Now even keeping the same pin location does not mean you can't move the cg or MB or HART in different positions.  I just feel one you find that good pin distance from your pap that it's wise to keep it for every ball.  Just let the cover and cores separate the reactions.

Here's an example:  I use pin above the bridge (5.5" from my pap) on each ball in my arsenal.  My DOOM and PAIN have this same pin location.  Both balls have the same exact layout.  Do they react the same?  NO!  The DOOM get's thru the heads a lot better and has a big back end.  The PAIN has more mid-lane read and a smoother back end.  Both balls drilled the same, both have different characteristics.

The cover and cores are the most important part of a balls reaction.  Once you find that versatile layout for you then it can be used on each ball in ones arsenal.
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Re: Question About Black Widow Drilling
« Reply #5 on: December 19, 2006, 01:39:39 PM »
I have to agree with chitown, I use the same layout on everything, except the No Mercy, but that's a different animal. I tend to think the reason there's so many balls with different covers/cores, that if you want a different reaction, get a different ball. Otherwise, why make more than 1 or 2 balls ?

I know, I know, more oil/less oil is one reason, but my point here is let the ball do what it was designed for...core/cover. If you don't like that reaction, then chances are with a different layout you still wouldn't like the ball. There are exceptions and those with more/less hand will see different reactions, but we are talking about you, one person.

I can see if a new ball will do what I want it to do by looking at the numbers/specs knowing how I plan to drill it. I will grant you, I changed my Toxic a bit, but not much and it is even better , for me, than I thought it would. I can compare the last 5-6 ball I've owned since they were drilled the same, different covers/cores and thus reactions.

This is just me, the way I feel for me and all my customers know how I feel. If they want the pin on the bottom, then that's where they get it, but I will always tell them the way I feel for my layout and a couple have decided to do the same. No complaints as yet, so I'd say, as long as you get/got the reaction from your Doom you like, drill the B/W the same but move the MB to the right 1 1/2- 2 inch right of thumb.
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crusher267658

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Re: Question About Black Widow Drilling
« Reply #6 on: December 19, 2006, 04:08:25 PM »
Thanks guys. I just hope I get the ball for Christmas because if I don't this will be a waste of time until I save up money to buy it myself.
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