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banjoec

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Disappointment with Hammer
« on: August 07, 2008, 10:49:49 AM »
Are we all sick of another variation of a Widow or Vibe. I've owned 2 Raw Pains, 2 Black Widows, Toxic, Anger & 2 Blue Vibes. The Widows were dead after 40 games. The Raw series lasted a bit longer. I've moved on to other equipment. The only Hammer I still throw is the Blue Vibe. With a new fall season about to begin, I'm looking at everything but the new Hammer stuff.
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Re: Disappointment with Hammer
« Reply #61 on: September 16, 2008, 09:45:30 PM »
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....I for one, like the BWP BWS and BWB, but the BWC and BWV are just ridiculous gimmicks....


Blistershurt: why do you think the Venom is a gimmick? Not flaming you, just an honest question... thx.
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chitown

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Re: Disappointment with Hammer
« Reply #62 on: September 17, 2008, 08:06:41 AM »
I must admit i'm not to excited about the new Hammer line up.  I never really matched up well with the BW series.  The BW series balls are just too strong on the backend for the tougher lane patterns I face in league.  I prefer bowling balls that offer strength and control on the backend (Doom, Pain, Blue Vibe, Anger).

The only new Hammer ball that has my interest is the Emerald Vibe and that's only because i've had such great success with the Blue Vibe.  I'm not interested in the Psycho or the Venom.

I've not had any problems with Hammer equipment dying.  I've seen a drop in reaction because of the equipment getting oil soaked but nothing a hot water bath can't fix.  All equipment absorbs oil.  Some bowling balls absorb i quicker than others such as the No Mercy.  However, each ball i've owned from Hammer has responded great to hot water baths.  The equipment acts like new after oil xtraction.


I'm just not too interested in Hammers new line up.  I've been looking to build a new arsenal for this season and have my sights set on Storm and MoRich.  Maybe Hammer will come out with a new ball to spark my interest.

Edited on 9/17/2008 8:15 AM
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chitown

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Re: Disappointment with Hammer
« Reply #63 on: September 17, 2008, 08:09:39 AM »
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The blue vibe was one of the worst balls hammer ever released no wonder it got discontinued. Also there balls die so fast just like Ebonite's.
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I would have to totally disagree with you about the Blue Vibe.  For me the Blue Vibe is one of the best bowling balls ever made.  I wonder if you changed the cover grit on your Blue Vibe?   A lot of bowlers wont ever change the cover on a shiny ball for whatever reason.
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KDawg77

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Re: Disappointment with Hammer
« Reply #64 on: September 19, 2008, 08:42:29 AM »
I dare say you might not match up as well with Hammer in some cases. Roll what works for you. No big whoop.
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Re: Disappointment with Hammer
« Reply #65 on: September 22, 2008, 02:01:24 PM »
The widows are very old, I was a big widow guy to begin with but looking back on it they hurt me more than they helped me. Its the same ball over and over just with a slight variation in coverstock everytime and people dont realize that there almost throwing the same ball but yet they have 4 of them with different names on them. Hammer needs to get balls that dont go 40 feet and look like they get kicked left at the breakpoint. And no the Pyscho isnt this ball either, its very speed sensitive oob like most pearl Hammers are, I've thrown a lot of other pearls and none of them are close to as speed sensitive as the pearls from Hammer that I've thrown.
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los2003

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Re: Disappointment with Hammer
« Reply #66 on: September 22, 2008, 02:14:52 PM »
the widow core is the same as the old big blue and big blue pearl. I like those petter than the whole widow series.
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agroves

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Re: Disappointment with Hammer
« Reply #67 on: September 22, 2008, 02:21:27 PM »
Hammer has a very good line-up.  Yes, there is some overlap in the widow series.  But, with the proper layouts and surface preps, you can have 4 distinctly different reactions on the lanes.  One could great a very versatile 5/6 ball arsenal with hammers equipment:

Bite--Early Roll, sanded to 1000 abralon
BW Pearl--Skid/flip--4000 no polish
Psycho--Box condition
Emerald Vibe--low flare layout, box
Razyr--Box
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J_Mac

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Re: Disappointment with Hammer
« Reply #68 on: September 22, 2008, 02:22:52 PM »
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the widow core is the same as the old big blue and big blue pearl. I like those petter than the whole widow series.


The Widow core is not the same as the Big Blue and Big Blue Pearl.

BW Bite - http://www.bowlingballreviews.com/ball.asp?ballid=2871
Big Blue - http://www.bowlingballreviews.com/ball.asp?ballid=2144

The Widow core shares the same shape and numbers as the Big Deal core.

The Big Deal - http://www.bowlingballreviews.com/ball.asp?ballid=2577

You might like the BB and BBP because of the lower amount of flare potential.
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los2003

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Re: Disappointment with Hammer
« Reply #69 on: September 22, 2008, 03:22:47 PM »
sorry it does't have the flip block they both have the gas mask core though. The gas mask core was the first high mass bias core from hammer and it was in the big blue series they added the flip block in the big deal..


http://www.ballreviews.com/Reviews/Reviews.asp?ManufacterID=18&BallID=899


http://www.ballreviews.com/Reviews/Reviews.asp?ManufacterID=18&BallID=505

http://www.ballreviews.com/Reviews/Reviews.asp?ManufacterID=18&BallID=471

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