Author Topic: Rebel Solid (Read 3850 times)

AlonzoHarris · « **on:** January 01, 2017, 02:13:43 PM »

Whats been the overall reception on this ball?

Thinking of giving this ball a try. I feel like this would allow me to play straighter and carry tugged shots in the puddle on a THS as well. I used a Haywire with this intention before but it seemed the cover was too strong and the core not quite enough for the matchup whereas I think the NBT solid will be a little better than that 80H Microbite. Thinking a pin down high flare layout.

JamminJD · « **Reply #1 on:** January 01, 2017, 02:22:47 PM »

Quote from: AlonzoHarris on January 01, 2017, 02:13:43 PM

Whats been the overall reception on this ball?

Thinking of giving this ball a try. I feel like this would allow me to play straighter and carry tugged shots in the puddle on a THS as well. I used a Haywire with this intention before but it seemed the cover was too strong and the core not quite enough for the matchup whereas I think the NBT solid will be a little better than that 80H Microbite. Thinking a pin down high flare layout.

Nice piece, very predictable gives you a smooth reaction. Give me the ability to play straighter longer than other solids.

Dave81644 · « **Reply #2 on:** January 02, 2017, 10:20:09 AM »

Very underrated piece in the Hammer line-up IMO
great predictable motion

2handedrook12 · « **Reply #3 on:** January 02, 2017, 04:54:19 PM »

I haven't seen a ton of them go down the lane yet since it is still a new ball. However, it seems to be a very good piece in my opinion. A cranker and a tweener are the two types of bowlers that punched one. The tweener plays pretty straight through the fronts. It still read quite a bit when tugged, but it didn't jump through the face either. Personally, I think this ball is better than the Haywire, but I'm not sure if it will givd you what you're asking at this moment.

I have two questions. Why do you think the Haywire wasn't enough core and why such a strong drilling?

Steven · « **Reply #4 on:** January 02, 2017, 05:37:36 PM »

I only have 2 practice games on mine. I'm reluctant to give anything definitive at this point, but my initial impression is that I love the Rebel solid. It rev up early, and reads the transition from oil to friction the way you want to see a ball drive.

I wouldn't look to this ball to be able to play straighter. The original Rebel (pearl) would be a better choice for that. The Rebel solid is a baby oiler that begs to be played further in. If you want to play straighter with it on a THS with outside friction, you'd need to take the surface up. But I think the versatility is there.

2handedrook12 · « **Reply #5 on:** January 02, 2017, 06:58:39 PM »

Quote from: Steven on January 02, 2017, 05:37:36 PM

I wouldn't look to this ball to be able to play straighter. The original Rebel (pearl) would be a better choice for that. The Rebel solid is a baby oiler that begs to be played further in.

This is fits what I saw. Maybe some further insight on your intent and how the shot plays?

Steven · « **Reply #6 on:** January 02, 2017, 07:37:39 PM »

Quote from: 2handedrook12 on January 02, 2017, 06:58:39 PM

Quote from: Steven on January 02, 2017, 05:37:36 PM
I wouldn't look to this ball to be able to play straighter. The original Rebel (pearl) would be a better choice for that. The Rebel solid is a baby oiler that begs to be played further in.
This is fits what I saw. Maybe some further insight on your intent and how the shot plays?

I was practicing on a fresh THS with clean backends and lots of friction from 10 to the gutter. This was not an ideal condition for playing straighter up the outside with a fairly aggressive 500/2000 NIB surface. Maybe if the outside was more blended, I could have pulled it off. I ended up crossing 3rd arrow out about the 10 and watched the ball boom back. It was fun.

My intent in getting the Rebel is to eventually replace an aging Columbia Disorder. The Rebel and the Disorder have almost identical RG/Differential specs. The Disorder has a weaker hybrid cover, but otherwise was the closest match I could find. I can always bring the surface of the Rebel up to be closer.

I didn't really think about it at the time, but I also have the Storm Rocket Ship, which has a lot of overlap with the Rebel Solid. I'll figure out what surface adjustments are necessary to separate their respective reactions.

2handedrook12 · « **Reply #7 on:** January 02, 2017, 08:11:29 PM »

I'm sorry, Steven. I meant to specify the condition comment towards Alonzo, but I'm glad you provided more intel.

AlonzoHarris · « **Reply #8 on:** January 02, 2017, 11:09:04 PM »

Quote from: 2handedrook12 on January 02, 2017, 04:54:19 PM

I haven't seen a ton of them go down the lane yet since it is still a new ball. However, it seems to be a very good piece in my opinion. A cranker and a tweener are the two types of bowlers that punched one. The tweener plays pretty straight through the fronts. It still read quite a bit when tugged, but it didn't jump through the face either. Personally, I think this ball is better than the Haywire, but I'm not sure if it will givd you what you're asking at this moment.

I have two questions. Why do you think the Haywire wasn't enough core and why such a strong drilling?

I'm no driller so the drilling I chose is based off what I have on the Ride and how I like its roll. My mindset was something that rolled similar but could hand a touch more oil. With that being said, my PSO would end up making the call on the drilling as I trust his decision.

I don't think I ever found the right condition for the Haywire to give it a fair shot before I sold it. The cover even being brought up to a higher grit was too much to play straighter out but if I moved in too far, the core didn't seem to give me enough juice to finish right. Many other variables but my end opinion was unneeded more diff or slightly weaker cover to make it work for me.

2handedrook12 · « **Reply #9 on:** January 03, 2017, 01:39:46 PM »

Quote from: AlonzoHarris on January 02, 2017, 11:09:04 PM

Quote from: 2handedrook12 on January 02, 2017, 04:54:19 PM
I haven't seen a ton of them go down the lane yet since it is still a new ball. However, it seems to be a very good piece in my opinion. A cranker and a tweener are the two types of bowlers that punched one. The tweener plays pretty straight through the fronts. It still read quite a bit when tugged, but it didn't jump through the face either. Personally, I think this ball is better than the Haywire, but I'm not sure if it will givd you what you're asking at this moment.

I have two questions. Why do you think the Haywire wasn't enough core and why such a strong drilling?

I'm no driller so the drilling I chose is based off what I have on the Ride and how I like its roll. My mindset was something that rolled similar but could hand a touch more oil. With that being said, my PSO would end up making the call on the drilling as I trust his decision.

I don't think I ever found the right condition for the Haywire to give it a fair shot before I sold it. The cover even being brought up to a higher grit was too much to play straighter out but if I moved in too far, the core didn't seem to give me enough juice to finish right. Many other variables but my end opinion was unneeded more diff or slightly weaker cover to make it work for me.

Honestly, based on your Ride observation, it sounds like you should get a Hy-Road (Hybrid). It felt like a baby Hy-Road to me. You could add surface to handle the volume still, but I think it would give you more of what you want unless the middle part of the lane is absolutely flooded.

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