I have two Sauces, one I keep dulled and have the pin below the fingers, the other one depending on the pattern I'm bowling on, I'll either polish it, or use a little less surface, and I have that one drilled with the pin above the fingers. When polished, I love the pin up Sauce on medium-dry to dry conditions. Doesn't flip like my Emerald Vibe, and gives a nice, controlled breakpoint, and of course, better length, than the dulled Sauce. Makes for a nice combination.