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Equipment Boards => Hammer => Topic started by: mmcfarland300 on August 12, 2009, 05:52:01 AM
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I was on extra frame watching match play and Scroggins is throwing the Raw Burn in his match with Rash.
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That he is, and a lot of bowlers are throwing the Natural from Storm.
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Yea that Natural is everywhere this week.
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Just another hack with too much equipment.
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Scroggins signed with ebonite 1 week before the WSOB started.
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Scroggins signed with ebonite 1 week before the WSOB started.
Ebonite International, allowing him to use all the equipment, Mike Fagan did as well.
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Umm about the xtra frame.....what is the new rate? I used to be subscribed when it was 5bills a month or something like that.
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I feel bad for the bowler's defenceless equipement when the bowler is not bowling up to par. . . .don't you?
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Ebonite International is the way to go! That gives these guys a huge selection of equipment to choose from.
I always felt some players handcuffed thereself by signing with companies with limited ball choices.
It would be nice to see the RAW series get some tv time this year.
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Umm about the xtra frame.....what is the new rate? I used to be subscribed when it was 5bills a month or something like that.
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I feel bad for the bowler's defenceless equipement when the bowler is not bowling up to par. . . .don't you?
I am still on the old pricing so not sure.
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"Another day will bring a different result"
"Pick your battles because stressing over things will not change an outcome"
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Umm about the xtra frame.....what is the new rate? I used to be subscribed when it was 5bills a month or something like that.
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I feel bad for the bowler's defenceless equipement when the bowler is not bowling up to par. . . .don't you?
The bill on my credit card shows $62.21 for the entire year, so that's less than $5.19 a month. Video quality is infinitely better this year than last year too!
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well atleast someone signed him. im disappointed it wasnt storm but lets hope he can still pull it off without schlem behind him.
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well atleast someone signed him. im disappointed it wasnt storm but lets hope he can still pull it off without schlem behind him.
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Timothy @Juniors Pro-Shops
LaSalle, Quebec-Located inside Pont Mercier Lanes.
Edmonton, Alberta. -Located inside Ed's Rec Room.(WEST ED MALL)
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I tell you what, Scroggins was not happy when he wasn't signed with roto grip or storm last year. He really pushed that brand and they snuffed him. I am glad someone signed him. He makes shows, and wins tournaments. Hell he has two majors to his credit.
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I tell you what, Scroggins was not happy when he wasn't signed with roto grip or storm last year. He really pushed that brand and they snuffed him. I am glad someone signed him. He makes shows, and wins tournaments. Hell he has two majors to his credit.
Hell i bet you there wouldn't have been half as many cell's sold if he hadn't bowled well with them in that two month period where he won two titles and made a couple shows with it.its a shame they didnt give him some sort of contract.
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well atleast someone signed him. im disappointed it wasnt storm but lets hope he can still pull it off without schlem behind him.
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Timothy @Juniors Pro-Shops
LaSalle, Quebec-Located inside Pont Mercier Lanes.
Edmonton, Alberta. -Located inside Ed's Rec Room.(WEST ED MALL)
Keep them honest!
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I tell you what, Scroggins was not happy when he wasn't signed with roto grip or storm last year. He really pushed that brand and they snuffed him. I am glad someone signed him. He makes shows, and wins tournaments. Hell he has two majors to his credit.
How did he get "snuffed"? He had a contract last year that allowed him to throw both storm and roto grip.
It will be interesting to see what kind of year he has. As TheDude said he no longer has that second set of eyes behind him, plus he has to learn 4 new lines of equipment.
I wish him the best tho, seems like a down to earth all around nice guy.
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well atleast someone signed him. im disappointed it wasnt storm but lets hope he can still pull it off without schlem behind him.
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Timothy @Juniors Pro-Shops
LaSalle, Quebec-Located inside Pont Mercier Lanes.
Edmonton, Alberta. -Located inside Ed's Rec Room.(WEST ED MALL)
Keep them honest!
Ebay store updated very often: http://stores.ebay.com/gumby3170?refid+store
I tell you what, Scroggins was not happy when he wasn't signed with roto grip or storm last year. He really pushed that brand and they snuffed him. I am glad someone signed him. He makes shows, and wins tournaments. Hell he has two majors to his credit.
How did he get "snuffed"? He had a contract last year that allowed him to throw both storm and roto grip.
It will be interesting to see what kind of year he has. As TheDude said he no longer has that second set of eyes behind him, plus he has to learn 4 new lines of equipment.
I wish him the best tho, seems like a down to earth all around nice guy.
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Accually he did NOT have a contract with Storm/Roto Grip. He had incentives when he made a show. Storm/RotoGrip did not sign him. They decided to sign Wes instead. Of course signing wes was a great thing to happen to Roto Grip, but if not for scroggins making shows with the cell, Roto would not be where they are at right now. Trust me I know Mike, so I don't know where you got info on him getting a contract, because he didn't. This is why he signed with Ebonite, he has been a free agent for the past 4 years.
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well atleast someone signed him. im disappointed it wasnt storm but lets hope he can still pull it off without schlem behind him.
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Timothy @Juniors Pro-Shops
LaSalle, Quebec-Located inside Pont Mercier Lanes.
Edmonton, Alberta. -Located inside Ed's Rec Room.(WEST ED MALL)
Keep them honest!
Ebay store updated very often: http://stores.ebay.com/gumby3170?refid+store
I tell you what, Scroggins was not happy when he wasn't signed with roto grip or storm last year. He really pushed that brand and they snuffed him. I am glad someone signed him. He makes shows, and wins tournaments. Hell he has two majors to his credit.
How did he get "snuffed"? He had a contract last year that allowed him to throw both storm and roto grip.
It will be interesting to see what kind of year he has. As TheDude said he no longer has that second set of eyes behind him, plus he has to learn 4 new lines of equipment.
I wish him the best tho, seems like a down to earth all around nice guy.
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Britton
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www.rotogrip.com (http://"http://www.rotogrip.com")
Accually he did NOT have a contract with Storm/Roto Grip. He had incentives when he made a show. Storm/RotoGrip did not sign him. They decided to sign Wes instead. Of course signing wes was a great thing to happen to Roto Grip, but if not for scroggins making shows with the cell, Roto would not be where they are at right now. Trust me I know Mike, so I don't know where you got info on him getting a contract, because he didn't. This is why he signed with Ebonite, he has been a free agent for the past 4 years.
I think we are talking about the same thing, but as far as i knew he had an incentive based contract. If that is wrong i appologize since you know him personally.
As i said i wish him the best of luck.
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Edited on 8/17/2009 5:12 AM
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He is not going to have to learn 4 lines of new equipment, just one. Ebonite signs you to only 1 of their brands. You can not cross over to another brand, unless they changed their policy this year, which I doubt.
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He is not going to have to learn 4 lines of new equipment, just one. Ebonite signs you to only 1 of their brands. You can not cross over to another brand, unless they changed their policy this year, which I doubt.
See what magicmike said above, they also mentioned on xtra frame that scroggins and fagan can use all 4 brands. I also saw Stevie Webber throwing what looked like some of the new columbia stuff as well as a pinslasher, so he may have a similar deal as well.
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He is not going to have to learn 4 lines of new equipment, just one. Ebonite signs you to only 1 of their brands. You can not cross over to another brand, unless they changed their policy this year, which I doubt.
There have been people in the past as well to get a 4brand contract. Patrick Allen comes to mind.
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He can use all four brands
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Britton an incentives based contract is nothing like a ball contract. Scroggins got paid extra for making a show, where as say Wes Malott gets paid a yearly salary for being on staff with roto grip. Scroggins only got paid a little when he made a show. Thats the only reason why he felt he got snuffed. He thought he should have gotten a full contract. As for the contract scroggins and fagan have, they can throw all four companies. Stevie Weber isn't on staff, but only throws columbia, ebonite, and hammer right now. I tell ya what he has had a great start so far with the new stuff.
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Britton an incentives based contract is nothing like a ball contract.
Yes i understand there is a difference but in your original statement you said "Scroggins was not happy when he wasn't signed with roto grip or storm last year." he did have a contract was the point i was trying to make thats all.
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lot of guys who made shows last year who were free agents got there throwing a bunch of brands all week and then Storm and Roto on Sunday for $$ Incentives.
Such as? If you were a pro, what would you use...the ball that gave you the best look to win the money up top or the ball that payed the most incentive money...seems like a simple choice to me.
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Umm about the xtra frame.....what is the new rate? I used to be subscribed when it was 5bills a month or something like that.
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I feel bad for the bowler's defenceless equipement when the bowler is not bowling up to par. . . .don't you?
63 for a year or 39 just for this months tournie
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you haven"t really been beaten you just been tracked
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well atleast someone signed him. im disappointed it wasnt storm but lets hope he can still pull it off without schlem behind him.
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Timothy @Juniors Pro-Shops
LaSalle, Quebec-Located inside Pont Mercier Lanes.
Edmonton, Alberta. -Located inside Ed's Rec Room.(WEST ED MALL)
Keep them honest!
Ebay store updated very often: http://stores.ebay.com/gumby3170?refid+store
I tell you what, Scroggins was not happy when he wasn't signed with roto grip or storm last year. He really pushed that brand and they snuffed him. I am glad someone signed him. He makes shows, and wins tournaments. Hell he has two majors to his credit.
How did he get "snuffed"? He had a contract last year that allowed him to throw both storm and roto grip.
It will be interesting to see what kind of year he has. As TheDude said he no longer has that second set of eyes behind him, plus he has to learn 4 new lines of equipment.
I wish him the best tho, seems like a down to earth all around nice guy.
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Britton
Owner/Operator of Videoballreviews.com (http://"http://www.videoballreviews.com")
Multi Media Consultant
Storm Products, Inc.
www.stormbowling.com (http://"http://www.stormbowling.com")
www.rotogrip.com (http://"http://www.rotogrip.com")
Accually he did NOT have a contract with Storm/Roto Grip. He had incentives when he made a show. Storm/RotoGrip did not sign him. They decided to sign Wes instead. Of course signing wes was a great thing to happen to Roto Grip, but if not for scroggins making shows with the cell, Roto would not be where they are at right now. Trust me I know Mike, so I don't know where you got info on him getting a contract, because he didn't. This is why he signed with Ebonite, he has been a free agent for the past 4 years.
"if not for scroggins making shows with the cell, Roto would not be where they are at right now."
The Cell was/is a great ball...people don't just go buy it because they saw Scroggins on TV with it...you can also say the opposite. Scroggins won't be where he was last year if not for roto-grip/ storm.....Things like that is just not right to say!
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well atleast someone signed him. im disappointed it wasnt storm but lets hope he can still pull it off without schlem behind him.
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Timothy @Juniors Pro-Shops
LaSalle, Quebec-Located inside Pont Mercier Lanes.
Edmonton, Alberta. -Located inside Ed's Rec Room.(WEST ED MALL)
Keep them honest!
Ebay store updated very often: http://stores.ebay.com/gumby3170?refid+store
I tell you what, Scroggins was not happy when he wasn't signed with roto grip or storm last year. He really pushed that brand and they snuffed him. I am glad someone signed him. He makes shows, and wins tournaments. Hell he has two majors to his credit.
How did he get "snuffed"? He had a contract last year that allowed him to throw both storm and roto grip.
It will be interesting to see what kind of year he has. As TheDude said he no longer has that second set of eyes behind him, plus he has to learn 4 new lines of equipment.
I wish him the best tho, seems like a down to earth all around nice guy.
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Britton
Owner/Operator of Videoballreviews.com (http://"http://www.videoballreviews.com")
Multi Media Consultant
Storm Products, Inc.
www.stormbowling.com (http://"http://www.stormbowling.com")
www.rotogrip.com (http://"http://www.rotogrip.com")
Accually he did NOT have a contract with Storm/Roto Grip. He had incentives when he made a show. Storm/RotoGrip did not sign him. They decided to sign Wes instead. Of course signing wes was a great thing to happen to Roto Grip, but if not for scroggins making shows with the cell, Roto would not be where they are at right now. Trust me I know Mike, so I don't know where you got info on him getting a contract, because he didn't. This is why he signed with Ebonite, he has been a free agent for the past 4 years.
"if not for scroggins making shows with the cell, Roto would not be where they are at right now."
The Cell was/is a great ball...people don't just go buy it because they saw Scroggins on TV with it...you can also say the opposite. Scroggins won't be where he was last year if not for roto-grip/ storm.....Things like that is just not right to say!
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Roto Grip is a great company and the cell is a great ball, but I saw a tape yesterday of the womens open and Kelly Kulick was using I think the pearl and solid and it is the worst look I have ever seen her have, she probably never wants to see another one let alone use one
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Scroggs is by far my favorite lefty. I hope to have a RHBurn very soon.
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Wait until word gets out about Wes and Rhino using other balls other than what the label said they were and getting caught by the PBA. They were told to get rid of them or have them X-rayed by the PBA and the USBC. They were removed from the truck in a flash from what I hear.
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Wait until word gets out about Wes and Rhino using other balls other than what the label said they were and getting caught by the PBA. They were told to get rid of them or have them X-rayed by the PBA and the USBC. They were removed from the truck in a flash from what I hear.
unless you know what your talking about, dont say anything. if your gonna call out the boys in utah, be sure to back up what you say with detail
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John
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Bottom line is that they were using equipment that was not what the serial# said it was. The label said one thing the actual equipment was something else.
They got busted. Have fun covering this up.