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wlee107

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Still frustrated with the No Mercy
« on: November 19, 2006, 09:20:58 AM »
After knocking down to 3000 grit, the no mercy still continues to have a very weak backend reaction. Does anyone else have their no mercy at a lower grit? I like to play inside and hook big. Im pretty frustrated now...im thinking about knocking it down to 1000 Does anybody have some inputs or suggestions?
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Hammer No Mercy 14#
Brunswick Power Groove 12#
Brunswick Zone 16#
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scotts33

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Re: Still frustrated with the No Mercy
« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2006, 05:25:33 PM »
Be helpful if you entered a profile.  What's your technique?  How is the ball laid out?  What kind of a lane condition do you normally use the NM on?  

Are the pin/CG and HART lined up?

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Re: Still frustrated with the No Mercy
« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2006, 06:13:32 PM »
I took it down to 600 grit (Green Scotchbrite) w/polish. Is too strong. I'm taking it back up to 2000 grit.

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wlee107

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Re: Still frustrated with the No Mercy
« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2006, 06:22:08 PM »
Scotts33, i am a power stroker with med-high revs. The proshop laid it out using the #1 layout...i believe it's the agressive layout?. I normally use it on a house shot and freshly oiled lanes in a league. Should i polish it up? Any suggestions would help!
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Hammer No Mercy 14#
Brunswick Power Groove 12#
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scotts33

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Re: Still frustrated with the No Mercy
« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2006, 06:22:39 PM »
I'll take a SWAG it's got a lot of negative weight like mine.  It hits fine on fresh and hits like a wet noodle during transition and carry down.  

But, we need more real info. to help wlee107.
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Re: Still frustrated with the No Mercy
« Reply #5 on: November 19, 2006, 06:25:13 PM »
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cotts33, i am a power stroker with med-high revs. The proshop laid it out using the #1 layout...i believe it's the agressive layout?. I normally use it on a house shot and freshly oiled lanes in a league. Should i polish it up? Any suggestions would help!  


What are the static weights?  Are the pin/CG and HART marking lined up or is the CG marking higher up towards the middle finger?  

Many will say static weights mean nothing.  I say on this ball BS.  If it has a lot of negative side it's going to be fine on fresh and like crap later in games and sets.


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wlee107

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Re: Still frustrated with the No Mercy
« Reply #6 on: November 19, 2006, 06:27:03 PM »
If you need any more info or pictures, please tell me! lol i'll do anything to get my no mercy to work!! Your right, on fresh oil it hits pretty good...but when theres carrydown, it hits like a baby!
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Hammer No Mercy 14#
Brunswick Power Groove 12#
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scotts33

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Re: Still frustrated with the No Mercy
« Reply #7 on: November 19, 2006, 06:29:37 PM »
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If you need any more info or pictures, please tell me! lol i'll do anything to get my no mercy to work!! Your right, on fresh oil it hits pretty good...but when theres carrydown, it hits like a baby!


You've got the same problem as I do.  Does it look like this?  Or roughly like that?

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scotts33

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Re: Still frustrated with the No Mercy
« Reply #8 on: November 19, 2006, 06:31:46 PM »
Read this also.  http://www.ballreviews.com/Forum/Replies.asp?TopicID=142915&ForumID=73&CategoryID=2

It will give you ideas of what I am seeing.
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wlee107

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Re: Still frustrated with the No Mercy
« Reply #9 on: November 19, 2006, 06:32:43 PM »
Here is a picture of the ball if you'd like to see:
http://img390.imageshack.us/img390/377/dsc00777xp4.jpg
Should i still take it down to 1000 or 2000?
What do you mean by negative weight?
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Re: Still frustrated with the No Mercy
« Reply #10 on: November 19, 2006, 06:40:01 PM »
It's not really the ball surface see the CG marking way over to the left?

That means the ball has a lot of negative weight.  Basically looks a lot like mine.  You must already have a weight hole or you are very close to being over an ounce on the the ball.  Who drilled it?  Did he/she weigh it?  I really think you need to weigh it up put a weight/X hole somewhere near your NAP rolling it first so you don't clip the extra hole and get your NM back to near 0.  Then it will hit with much more continuation at the pins.  The amount of neagtive wgiht is effecting it on carry down.  Do this first and I bet you'll worry less about surface.
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wlee107

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Re: Still frustrated with the No Mercy
« Reply #11 on: November 19, 2006, 06:42:51 PM »
Thank you so much for your help scotts33, i really appreciate it. I'll go by the pro shop tommorow and question him...
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Re: Still frustrated with the No Mercy
« Reply #12 on: November 19, 2006, 06:44:21 PM »
To add if the pin, CG and HART were in line you wouldn't have as much negative weight it would be much more near 0 or even positive side weight.  Do remember most balls are drilled with some positive side weight to make them roll harder with continuation.  I hope, I make sense.  Ask away if not.  

It's very funny that Hammer came out with this ball to make drilling simpler or that was one of their reasons anyway and I see this problem surface quite a bit now.  
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Re: Still frustrated with the No Mercy
« Reply #13 on: November 19, 2006, 06:45:35 PM »
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Thank you so much for your help scotts33, i really appreciate it. I'll go by the pro shop tommorow and question him...


wlee107,

Did the driller/pro weigh up your NM on a DoDo scale?
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wlee107

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Re: Still frustrated with the No Mercy
« Reply #14 on: November 19, 2006, 06:48:08 PM »
My driller didn't weigh it after drilling it. Also, i dont have a x-hole or any other extra balance hole on the ball. What do you think i should question him on?
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Brunswick Power Groove 12#
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