Post by: Big Jake on July 22, 2009, 05:59:30 AM
I am thinking about getting a VIBE for my arsenal. I need something that isnt over powering
Something for the 3rd game when the lanes are drying out and yet there is still some oil, I have a dry lane ball called the HORNET which is from Lanemasters but I need something with a little more pop!!
I ws thinking about the (Red) Cherry-VIBE, so whats everyones opinions on the Cherry-VIBE? btw, I am a stroker/tweener. Thanks for your input.
Jake
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Post by: Big Jake on July 23, 2009, 12:11:59 AM
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Post by: No Revs00300 on July 23, 2009, 12:35:09 AM
Post by: Gazoo on July 23, 2009, 08:55:07 AM
Emerald Vibe: More length with strong but more angular backend.
Can't go wrong with either.
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Post by: Big Jake on July 23, 2009, 11:24:46 AM
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Post by: Big Jake on July 28, 2009, 01:30:54 PM
Well, I ended up getting the Cherry Vibe and the conditions that are in my house this summer the ball is kinda strong however, I find throwing it out and wheeling it
the ball is superb.So here is my next question: what ball would be next up on the Hammer ball list as far as power/hook goes? I have a Widow-Pearl which I do not care for.
I was thinking about the Widow Venom but I dont know if that would be similar to the above mentioned even though its not a pearl. The conditions at my house cant remain this poor (waaaaay low in the oil dept.)
So what would be your suggestions for a true med-oil ball? I like standing around 20/30 starting off and then of course following the oil, I throw around 15/16mph and can play straight up or wheel it...although I do prefer to wheeling it
. Hmmm, It sems the Burn just might fit the bill too...
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Post by: BiGtYmEr300 on July 28, 2009, 01:36:49 PM
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Post by: raiderh20boy on July 28, 2009, 01:38:51 PM
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Post by: sluggo35 on July 28, 2009, 03:02:10 PM
Post by: Big Jake on July 28, 2009, 05:15:31 PM
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Post by: Kid Jete on July 28, 2009, 05:18:45 PM
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so would the "Burn" be a good ball to go above the Cherry Vibe for med-oil conditions...
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If you're looking for a skid/snap monster, yes it'll go above the Cherry nicely.
Post by: Big Jake on July 28, 2009, 07:06:55 PM
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If you're looking for a skid/snap monster, yes it'll go above the Cherry nicely.
Yup, so thanks everyone!!
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Post by: jhutch769 on July 28, 2009, 09:58:59 PM
Post by: Big Jake on July 29, 2009, 12:16:05 AM
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Watched Billy O'Neil throw the Onyx today.. Looked super good.. Nice and smooth on the back..
So with all things being equal
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Post by: Big Jake on July 29, 2009, 09:15:35 AM
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Post by: sluggo35 on July 29, 2009, 11:47:03 AM
Post by: Gazoo on July 29, 2009, 12:03:40 PM
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Post by: los2003 on July 29, 2009, 12:11:58 PM
and the onyx is very similar to the blue vibe. its earlier than both the emerald, and cherry and smoother.. but still stronger dont get that mistaken..
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Watched Billy O'Neil throw the Onyx today.. Looked super good.. Nice and smooth on the back..
So with all things being equal
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Post by: abrown on July 29, 2009, 12:17:35 PM
Post by: Big Jake on July 29, 2009, 01:22:18 PM
However, what SOLID ball would have the same type of reaction that the BURN has? just wondering and hoping that its another ball thats priced under $115.oo
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Post by: sluggo35 on July 29, 2009, 01:45:47 PM
Post by: los2003 on July 30, 2009, 01:00:44 AM
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Ok, so the ONYX is looking pretty good to me right now.
However, what SOLID ball would have the same type of reaction that the BURN has? just wondering and hoping that its another ball thats priced under $115.oo
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Post by: sluggo35 on July 30, 2009, 01:59:16 AM
Post by: Big Jake on July 30, 2009, 09:23:14 AM
so I tell him that his ball is the more aggressive one of the two.
So he is two pairs over from me and after a couple of frames he comes over to me and starts asking about why his ball is somewhat weak especially since his driller had told him that he had drilled it strong. But after he settled down he goes on and rolls a nice 280 just playing between the first two arrows. I had to throw my weaker Cherry Vibe out over the 3rd arrow and wheel it ( I love that shot) since it was way to strong for playing up the boards.
However, I couldnt carry the corners last nite at all with my Cherry Vibe and my friend couldnt miss, LoL, but it was fun as usual!
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Post by: Gazoo on July 30, 2009, 09:45:50 AM
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Post by: los2003 on July 30, 2009, 10:09:44 AM
However, what SOLID ball would have the same type of reaction that the BURN has? just wondering and hoping that its another ball thats priced under $115.oo
in the hammer line other that the jigsaw nothin will have close to as much backend thats solid..
Post by: Big Jake on August 05, 2009, 01:37:08 PM
Since I thought the ONYX was going to be aggressive right out of the box I played it that way so by playing it that way my first game was freaking terrible, I experienced a lot of over under until the OOB shine wore off and the lanes started mellowing out which really took about two full games.
But after I got kinda used to the reaction I started seeing what this ball can do. I started playing up the boards, which resulted in some bad splits and also some washouts then I moved in a little and the same thing happened….
In the 3rd game the lanes were getting somewhat better and the ball was losing some of its OOB shine and I was standing 25/30 and bellying the ball and it was coming back very, very, strong. I loved the way it moved off of the dry.
Tonight will be a better test for me as the Wednesday night league usually is a better shot and I can usually start the night by playing inside which I do prefer. I’ve got mine with the pin above the ring finger, like I said tonight will be a much better condition for me to throw it on so stay tuned.
Btw, I am seriously thinking about getting either the Venom or the Burn...
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Post by: SteveAustin2808 on August 05, 2009, 01:49:41 PM
I can vouch for the ONYX being squirty on carrydown...ran into that quite a bit last night while practicing...but once I moved right, holy cow did the ball just keep on going...
If you want longer in length and a lot of backend reaction..go with the Burn...comparatively against the Venom..you'll see the Venom start to react sooner in the mids while still being aggressive but have more of an arc to the pocket...in my opinion, the Burn will work better on medium conditions. Hope this helps! God Bless!
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Post by: Big Jake on August 05, 2009, 02:32:47 PM
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I can vouch for the ONYX being squirty on carrydown...ran into that quite a bit last night while practicing...but once I moved right, holy cow did the ball just keep on going...
Yeah, but the way it moves off the dry is very impressive to me, especially since its a low end ball, good grief it was sweet.
One shot in particular that I rememeber so well is when the lanes started getting playable I threw it 'tween the 3rd an 4th arrow to see what she would do, well, I threw it a little to hard and it blew by the break point and was about to go in the gutter but I managed to hit it at the bottom of my swing so
as its revving up and starting to set it finally does and it actually hung over the gutter but turned at the last second and then set up and made a monster move to the pocket and destroyed the pins...I still cant believe that it didnt drop in the gutter, LOL
After getting familar with the ONYX it will be a fun ball to use. This Hammer
addiction all started when I got the CHERRY VIBE two weeks ago and loved the way it rolled
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Post by: SteveAustin2808 on August 05, 2009, 10:48:13 PM
I'm thinking about giving a Cherry a try and just to see how it would be comparison wise to the Onyx. If I manage to get my hands on one, I'll try and post a video. I have been wanting to post some new videos but with the full time schedule working in the shop its been very hectic, especially since fall season and leagues are getting ready to start up again!
So lucky you for being able to throw the Cherry
God Bless!
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Post by: Big Jake on August 06, 2009, 09:11:01 AM
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Jake,
I'm thinking about giving a Cherry a try and just to see how it would be comparison wise to the Onyx. If I manage to get my hands on one, I'll try and post a video. ...
Hey Mike
I think you will really like the CHERRY VIBE but like the ONYX it does need to bump off of the dry to see its work
Well, I tried the ONYX again last night but as usual my house had a terrible shot out but I did use it for 1 1/2 games and then the CHERRY. Both balls worked well when called upon.
Just like normal though I threw 3 beautiful pocket 7 - 10 splits with the ONYX
on the same lane, due to the extreme conditions <sigh>
Have a great day HammerHeads....
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