Author Topic: How many have the NO MERCY and what's your opinion? (Read 4833 times)

chitown · « **on:** November 21, 2006, 11:54:33 PM »

For everyone that has a NO MERCY what do you think about it? Is it worth the HYPE? I would like to hear everyone's opinion.

For me this ball is very strong. It needs oil to get down the lane. It really moves on the dry. I currently have mine polished with factory finish polish. This gave it more length and less on the back end. That kind of surprised me because polish usually increases the back end. I'm going to bring mine down to 2000 girt and use it as my heavy oil ball.

So my impressions of this ball are good. It hits really hard and has awesome pin action. It seems to roll good thru the mid-lane and doesn't seem to jump too bad on the back end. The only draw back I have with this ball is it's very condition specific for me. It will keep me way inside on most conditions because of how strong it is. I like this ball and it will stay in my bag.

I also have mine drilled with the #6 layout!
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golfnutFL · « **Reply #16 on:** November 27, 2006, 10:16:39 PM »

It is the only ball I've ever thrown that makes me look like a cranker (almost).
Strongest ball I've ever thrown on anything short of a flood that hooks this hard. The recovery is absolutely amazing. On medium to medium-heavy I've never played this deep in my life.
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golfnutFL · « **Reply #17 on:** November 27, 2006, 10:25:33 PM »

And the most amazing thing is the length before the recovery, it does not react too early.....but oh boy, does it turn hard.

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It is the only ball I've ever thrown that makes me look like a cranker (almost).
Strongest ball I've ever thrown on anything short of a flood that hooks this hard. The recovery is absolutely amazing. On medium to medium-heavy I've never played this deep in my life.
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clovismaul · « **Reply #18 on:** November 28, 2006, 01:42:54 AM »

it SUCKED really bad for me.
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BigHorhn · « **Reply #19 on:** November 28, 2006, 12:18:12 PM »

I think I'm experiencing what some of the other guys are. I can't stroke this ball or I'll leave 7 pins all day. I had it taken up to 4000 and it skates to much. I don't have it drilled real aggressive. I have layout #2 on it. I think I should have drilled it stronger, which I plan on doing and keeping it at 2000. I think this will work. Right now it just arcs to much. I can get to the hole easy, but there's no pop on the backend. I think I wil take chitowns suggestion and drill it using #6 or #7. I'm a tweener with I'd say decent revs so I haven't yet decided on #6 or #7 put a friend on mine said I should go with #7. Oh well. So I'd say, drill it strong. I really haven't been able to be consistent with asymmetric bowlingballs anyway. I should have went with my first inclination to get another pain and drill it differently. Its one of those balls that you can use but isn't your first or second choice. At least its not mine right now. 2cents

chitown · « **Reply #20 on:** November 28, 2006, 02:40:21 PM »

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I think I'm experiencing what some of the other guys are. I can't stroke this ball or I'll leave 7 pins all day. I had it taken up to 4000 and it skates to much. I don't have it drilled real aggressive. I have layout #2 on it. I think I should have drilled it stronger, which I plan on doing and keeping it at 2000. I think this will work. Right now it just arcs to much. I can get to the hole easy, but there's no pop on the backend. I think I wil take chitowns suggestion and drill it using #6 or #7. I'm a tweener with I'd say decent revs so I haven't yet decided on #6 or #7 put a friend on mine said I should go with #7. Oh well. So I'd say, drill it strong. I really haven't been able to be consistent with asymmetric bowlingballs anyway. I should have went with my first inclination to get another pain and drill it differently. Its one of those balls that you can use but isn't your first or second choice. At least its not mine right now. 2cents

BigHorn, if your not happy with the layout then by all means change it. I have found that if you really are not happy with a ball then change it or get rid of it.

I had a BW which I bought used from a friend. All I did was plug and redrill in the same location. Well this ball just didn't work for me. So I traded it in for a new one. I don't like plugging a ball and redrilling it in a new location. I just don't like that. Well my new one workd much better.

If your like me and don't like plugging and re drilling equipment then I would consider getting a new one. Just make sure what ever you do that the layout is correct.

I'm also like you in that asymmetrical balls are not my favorite. I just have not had great success with them. I am not going to rule out buying them but I always look for symmetrical equipment as my bread and butter.

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scotts33 · « **Reply #21 on:** November 28, 2006, 02:57:45 PM »

Big Horhn,

Not sure this will make a difference in your layout #2. Are the pin/CG and HART lined up?

Has your NM been weighed for statics and what did you wind up with?

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cnimsk · « **Reply #22 on:** November 28, 2006, 03:03:12 PM »

Drilling this ball is relatively simple. Put the heart in or as near to your track as you can. If you do that, it works, it turns hard, it doesn't burn up, and it hits hard and continues all the way to the back. It's a very good bowling ball. You will be playing an inside line due to how strong this ball is. If you are not comfortable playing to the inside, don't buy it. Hammer has a bright red sticker on the top of the box with the key words being...trust us. Trust them.

Chuck

six pack · « **Reply #23 on:** November 28, 2006, 03:19:36 PM »

for me I have found that asymmetrical balls are really drill/pattern specific.you chose a layout for a specific pattern and have some room to adjust but when the shot goes,so dose the ball.my no mercy works good for a certain shot and my widow works well for another,now I need something in between.
No Mercy-flat patterns
Black Widow-wallshot
next ball?

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I'm considering another asymmetrical ball to fill the spot in between the two I have cause I'm addicted to the hit and carry,the problem is I'm not sure what to get or how to drill it.I want something that will work on broken down flat patterns and wet ths shot,leaning towards another widow but I like the no mercy too so I'm at odds with myself.....
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toomanytenpins · « **Reply #24 on:** November 28, 2006, 09:23:47 PM »

ok i am back again. I might agree with the asym being not good for me except i love my epic. That being said,I have already stated that my epic is stronger than the nm and the pin to pap is only about an inch or so different. They aren't even close.
Today i took out my track power plus ex that i hadn't used in awhile just to get a feel for how the nm would compare to it since everything else i have imo is stronger. so as i said bowling with the 2 at 2 different houses with 2 totally different shots the power plus imh,hits harder turns stronger and was much more predictable than the nm. The pin to pap is about the same except the ppex pin is About an inch higher.
It didn't matter what i did,shot for shot with the same adjustments,hand positions,releases what have you, the ppex was hands down the better ball.First shot was drier with some swing room standing anywhere from 30 to 20,playing out to about 7 the ppex was a monster. I had to really slow my ball speed to get the nm to face the pocket.It left corner pins if i was off any with the speed. The ppex was just the opposite ,let er rip and watch em fly.
Second house was a nice medium shot. Speed was critical for both balls but more so for the nm. Even with the heavier oil the ppex at 800 polished out performed the nm .Now that i have realized that it might not be me what should i do with the nm. On drier shots with low speed it turns hard and has decent carry,but add some oil and this ball is like my white dot. Don't even think about trying to put more speed or hit on it ,60 feet to nothing. If i hadn't been throwing weaker balls i might have thought there wasn't enough oil,but my white dot went perfectly straight. my nm is drilled #1 i am a tweener and if i ever get over 17mph with my speed its a fluck . med rev player ,when i am throwing it right and today i was.So you guys that love it what are your suggestions or are there any. For me this ball is a good med to light oil ball at best
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scotts33 · « **Reply #25 on:** November 28, 2006, 09:30:23 PM »

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Drilling this ball is relatively simple. Put the heart in or as near to your track as you can. If you do that, it works, it turns hard, it doesn't burn up, and it hits hard and continues all the way to the back.

ONLY basically true IF the pin/CG and Hart are lined up. If not you may wind up with some weird statics. If, Hammer had manufactured them ALL with the pin/CG and HART lined up I'd agree with you but I have seen now more than 5 that were NOT manufactured that way. Leads to some wacky statics. For those that say statics don't make a difference......pooh on you with this ball they DO! JMO from my own experience.

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BigHorhn · « **Reply #26 on:** November 29, 2006, 01:19:14 PM »

Chitown I don't like getting my bowlingballs redrilled either. However I am planning on getting my No Mercy redrilled if this doesn't work out I might get another pain or try out the toxic. I also had a Black Widow that I traded the no mercy for (OPPS). I did read in another post that some proshops where sending no mercy's back that didn't have the pin,cg and hart in line. Something that scotts33 mentioned. My mercy is one of those not having the pin,cg and hart not lined up. I also read a good point that drrev2000 made, which was having the pin to long for the drill I put on the ball. The pin on my ball is 4 inches. I'm pretty sure the statics where weighted, but thats something that I will have to check on to. That being said I hope I can get a good enough reaction out of the ball after it is redrilled. I told the person who drilled it what I wanted it to do, and left it up to him. This is how it looks:

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0 0
cg

@o

Well the hart is little lower next to the thumb. There is a weight hole in line with the cg also. I'm also a lefty. The pro tour is here this weekend (freeway lanes wickliffe, ohio), so its crazy at the bowling alley. I might have to wait until its over to get the work done. I'm going to check em out tomorrow from 11-3. Thanks guys.

chitown · « **Reply #27 on:** November 29, 2006, 01:58:05 PM »

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Chitown I don't like getting my bowlingballs redrilled either. However I am planning on getting my No Mercy redrilled if this doesn't work out I might get another pain or try out the toxic. I also had a Black Widow that I traded the no mercy for (OPPS). I did read in another post that some proshops where sending no mercy's back that didn't have the pin,cg and hart in line. Something that scotts33 mentioned. My mercy is one of those not having the pin,cg and hart not lined up. I also read a good point that drrev2000 made, which was having the pin to long for the drill I put on the ball. The pin on my ball is 4 inches. I'm pretty sure the statics where weighted, but thats something that I will have to check on to. That being said I hope I can get a good enough reaction out of the ball after it is redrilled. I told the person who drilled it what I wanted it to do, and left it up to him. This is how it looks:

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0 0
cg

@o

Well the hart is little lower next to the thumb. There is a weight hole in line with the cg also. I'm also a lefty. The pro tour is here this weekend (freeway lanes wickliffe, ohio), so its crazy at the bowling alley. I might have to wait until its over to get the work done. I'm going to check em out tomorrow from 11-3. Thanks guys.

Hey bud now I see what is happening. Your layout is not drilled aggressive. I also don't think a cover change is going to change that reaction. A cover change will probably allow it to handle more oil but still have that arc to it.

I would keep the pin in a simnilar location but put that HART in your ball track. My HART location is close to the 4th flare ring of my ball track. I get a very controllable but strong reaction.

I bet if you have this ball plugged and re drilled to a strong reaction like mine you would want to get another one. That's where I am with mine. I like it so much that I will probably get another one. It seems like the more I use it the better it gets.

I'm working on getting my computer set up to accept vids from my camcorder. When I get this done I will post some vids. I hoping to have it done by next week and have some vids up.
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BigHorhn · « **Reply #28 on:** November 29, 2006, 02:27:25 PM »

Sorry about my art work. The cg is kicked out more than it is in the drawing. Its a done deal, I'm going to get it redrilled as soon as possible and take it back to box condition. Just one more thing should I get #6,#7 or number one? I look forward to your vids bud.

Stay tuned, I'll p.m. you with an update. Thanks

chitown · « **Reply #29 on:** November 29, 2006, 02:34:25 PM »

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Sorry about my art work. The cg is kicked out more than it is in the drawing. Its a done deal, I'm going to get it redrilled as soon as possible and take it back to box condition. Just one more thing should I get #6,#7 or number one? I look forward to your vids bud.

Stay tuned, I'll p.m. you with an update. Thanks

I would go with the #6 layout. The one for high rev players. This layout works great.
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cnimsk · « **Reply #30 on:** November 29, 2006, 03:02:59 PM »

I used my No Mercy for the second time last night and had a 646 series. Not great but not bad for a 194 average bowler either. The oil was heavier than the previous week, meaning I could use the ball all three games. Basically I was able to stand at about 32 to 34 all night, throwing out over 15 to about 10 to 8 and the ball was coming back and hitting the pocket just fine, as long as I hit my mark. I could have easily had a 700 series but I missed three 10 pins during the night. In games two and three, the ball hit and carried great. In the first game, it was just one of those games where I needed to make a quarter board adjustment and just didn't realize it soon enough. As a result I was getting tapped the entire game...six times. Add in a couple of shots where I was wild outside and a couple wild inside, during the night, and.....I conclude that, expect for operator error, the No Mercy did as well as any bowling ball could. And it certainly carries on light hits. I wouldn't call the No Mercy a really heavy oil ball....but it can certainly handle medium, medium heavy, even a heavy on the light side, conditions quite well. I'm impressed and continue to be impressed, with the No Mercy, and with Hammer in general at the moment.

Chuck

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