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VIPER
« on: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM »
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Our top cut diamond, eliminates the balls flare, letting your ball roll with complete control.  Surrounding this cut diamond core is our XTra strength Rhino Pro Reactive cover.  With the combination of our low flaring cut diamond core and our XTra strength reactive cover, the VIPER has DANGEROUS Power and Contrl needed to conquer the tough, spotty, or sport conditions.

Color: Purple Passion

Coverstock: XTra Strength Rhino Pro Reactive

Core: Low Differential Top Cut Diamond

Hook Rating: 18

Flair Potential: 0-1” +

Pin Placement: 12 O’clock 2-4” out

Construction: 3-piece

Hardness: 75-77 D-scale

Finish: Polished

Increased Dynamics: 15-14 lbs.

Available Weights: 14, 15 and 16

 

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Re: VIPER
« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2002, 09:46:17 PM »
Lane #1. Brings Back a Blast from the Past!

The New Viper, or should we say, Re-Introduction, of the VIPER is a New
and Updated version of the one we all new from the mid-90's!

This VIPER features the "Top Cut Diamond" weight block design, surrounded
in a Pearl Formulation called, "Extra-Strength Rhino Pro Reactive"
(18+) on the Hook scale, this VIPER is strong and ready to strike!

Using todays new dense core technology this VIPER will out perform any Past Viper memory that you may have!

We got our pair and immediately drilled one of them and got it on the lanes!
Using a Lane #1. favorite drilling pattern of (Label 2:00pin)
we went to the lanes which had already had two full sessions of Senior Leagues on them.
Knowing that this ball is stated for the Dry and "Spotty" lane conditions, we had hoped to play this one in its designed enviroment.

As we rolled the first game we found this Viper to get down the lane and give us a controlled and yet strong move to the pins!
The track area was pretty burned up on this pair so we were excited as we could play right up the dry part of the lane and not have the ball over react!

We could move inside and get this one back again with little effort!
(the dry lanes gave us the room to swing this one with great control!)

This Lane #1. ball will help thoses bowlers who struggle on the dry and fried lane conditions!

We rolled four complete games and found the ball smooth and strong!
Hard Hitting! And Pin Crushing! (Typical Lane #1. Performance!)

We will keep this one in our bag for awhile in that we have some PBA Regionals coming up were this one will be needed!

We Highly Recommend this ball to all bowlers and to Our Customers!

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Re: VIPER
« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2002, 08:43:01 PM »
I wanted a ball to go Long and Strong...This is it!. It is a good choice on dier and burnt shots. The most appealing thing with the VIPER is that when it sees dry it doesn't take off on the spot. (it is smoooooth)
 It reads the lanes well, goes long, is strong, and does not over react.(thats it in a nut shell).
 
 I don't use it on oil unless it is short or fresh back end, and then it is ????

 Over all I give this an 8-9 out of 10

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Re: VIPER
« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2002, 10:59:47 PM »
I just got my Viper today. The pin was drilled out, it Was, where my ring finger is. I had a little trouble with the ball, the thumb is too large, I'm getting some tape, and I'll post another review later. What I did learn is this, if you bowl in a house where they are too cheap to put oil out like I do, you need this ball. It has the cover of the Rhino Series, and is every bit as controllable. Hitting power? It's a buzzsaw, nuff said. Folks, if you are anywhere near Simpsonville,SC, go see Frank Spada, he's a senior tour bowler, and driller, he'll fix you up right.

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Re: VIPER
« Reply #4 on: June 04, 2002, 02:47:36 PM »
0K, thumbhole is good so here's my review. The ball is drilled with the lane #1 diamond in the center of the palm, the pin Was where my ring finger is. This ball loves dry more than any ball I've ever seen. It is a resin ball, but rolls like urethane. If there is a perfect dry lane ball this is it.

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Re: VIPER
« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2002, 04:25:51 PM »
I set this ball up 3-3/8x3-3/8 with a 31/32 hole at 3-3/8 past my axis.
The funny thing about this ball is I messed up the drilling. I was SUPPOSED to put the hole at 6-3/4 from the pin through my axis. Instead, I put the hole 3-3/8 from my axis along the arc intersecting my center grip and axis.

Anyhow, the ball seems to work well on all conditions EXCEPT when there is no oil in the pines. In that particular case, the ball seems to expend all its energy just trying to get through the pines... then it hits flat.

Outside of that, I really like the read the ball gives me on the lane. While I won't go so far as to say this is a Buzzsaw Superball, it is VERY bowler friendly.

If my other equipment is making me work too hard to get the ball down the lane, I can always throw this ball to find a way to the pocket -- I'm not saying I'll carry, but I'll hit the pocket.

The amazing thing about this ball is the way that it breaks up crap. I mean, with other equipment, a nose-hit will leave me with a "Durbin" combo like the nasty-4 (don't know the real name for the 3-4-6-7-9-10). However, this ball seems to fly pins around VERY low to the deck, so I end up with a 3-pin instead. Same seems to hold for EXTREMELY light hits. Where other balls might leave me with the 2-4-8-10, this ball leaves the 2-pin.

It's really cool to watch.

All-in-all, I have this to say about my first experience with Buzzsaw:

I've left more 7-10 splits and "strong-7s" than I have in a while, however, I haven't left any 2-8-10 combination splits or "Durbin" clusters with the ball. From this, I've concluded that the core doesn't improve carry in the pocket (entry angle, axis tilt, axis rotation, and ball speed seem to still dictate pocket carry), but it sure makes those "oh crap" shots a lot less painful.

I think that maybe Buzzsaw should change their marketing scheme. Instead of the "more 300s and 800s per ball" campaign, they should have Jordan Nasberg on a commercial throwing the ball as crappy as he can (Jersey-squashers, Brooklyn, nose hits, fader wall shots) and still striking. THAT would be funny. They would only have to show it three or four times (just so that every can talk about it). Then the slogan could be "Want to be a pro, but you can't execute? Buy a Buzzsaw, we won't make you look better, but your scores will go up!"

BTW, this is not meant to take ANYTHING away from Jordan's game. He's a really good bowler and funny to boot. However, I just think he'd be perfect for the part. He's such a joker that those who know him would laugh... and those who don't would believe the commercial.

(PS -- I'm sorry this review is so crappy, but I just feel lazy right now.)

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Re: VIPER
« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2002, 09:41:41 PM »
Got this little gem used and just plugged and redrilled fingers. The pin had been drilled out so I rotated the plugged area to the right of my new finger hole area.

Pin to cg: 3"
Drill Pattern: 3-1/4 x 3-1/2

This is not an ideal drilling for this ball but it give me a very different reaction.

I had heard the Viper is all about control and it really is. Even with this aggressive and early rolling drill pattern, the ball showed great length and terriffic hit and carry.

Due to the core configuration this ball does NOT bounce on the backend but has a nice, even, steady hard arc into the 1-3. The hit is not thunderous like the Cherry PEarl but when the lanes get really snappy I cannot throw the Cherry but can keep this ball in play and carry the 9 pin.

I have not played this ball on the SPORT pattern but I will update you when I do. The ball plays well on the house shot and holds the backend well even when they are flying. I do need to play about 6-8 boards to the right from where I'd shoot the Cherry but it still carries well.

Yet another great ball from Lane 1.
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Re: VIPER
« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2002, 02:40:01 AM »
I really like this ball.  I bought it and had it drilled to go long and have a nice, smooth, and controlled arc.  I'm not sure what layout it is, but the pin is right under the ring finger.  Like the others have said, it is very forgiving if you tug it and it doesnt over-react when it hits the dry.  When my Messenger b/s/p flips too much for me, I can pull this out of the bag and swing 15 to 10 and let the ball do the work...  Hits like a truck.  Left a few 4-9's, solid 7's and 10's, but I never believed you could buy "carry" in a box.  I'm becoming a big fan of Lane #1.

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Re: VIPER
« Reply #8 on: November 11, 2002, 11:59:21 AM »
Great Ball for the dry!!!  Goes real long and it's controllable.  Not going to recover a ton.  You just need to know when it will be effective. Great on the fried heads.  One of the straighter Buzzsaws.  Smoother than the other "pearl" buzzsaws.

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Re: VIPER
« Reply #9 on: March 10, 2003, 08:35:07 AM »
THIS BALL IS GREAT FOR DRY TO MED LANE CONDITIONS. I JUST GOT THE BALL A FEW WEEKS AGO AND CANT BELIEVE HOW CONSISTENT THE BALL ROLLS.  I HAVE THE BALL SET UP TO GO LONG AND SNAP BACK TO THE POCKET.  I HAVE USED THE BALL OVER THE LAST TWO WEEKS.  I SHOT 686 AND 652 ON DRY LANES.  THAT IS AN AVERAGE OF 223 A GAME. IF YOU ARE LOOKING FOR A BALL FOR DRY LANES THAT HITS HARD,THIS IS THE BALL YOU ARE LOOKING FOR.  

UPDATE: ON 03/13/03 I USED THE VIPER AND SHOT 275-236-246 = 757 SERIES.  I HAVE BEEN ON FIRE WITH THIS BALL FOR THE LAST THREE WEEKS.  THIS IS THE BEST BALL THAT I HAVE BOUGHT TO THIS POINT. I GIVE THIS BALL A 12 OUT OF 10.

I AM A RIGHT HANDED BOWLER WITH A 203 AVERAGE.

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Re: VIPER
« Reply #10 on: March 14, 2003, 10:03:46 PM »
Hey Guys,
My name is Tom "Beans" Biniek Jr. and I am a PBA Regional Bowler and a Lane#1 BUZZSAW PRO STAFF MEMBER!!
My stats are:

Rev Rate:Med-High

Axis Tilt:High

Speed: Average 16.8-17.3 mph(On Quibica Scoring)

PAP: 4 5/8> 1/2^

Here is my review of this ball:
Ball: VIPER PEARL

Layout: Pin 5" from PAP and CG 3" from PAP with 6" Extra Hole back to 1/2 positive. 1/4 oz. Finger weight. (My Favorite Layout!!)

While having great success with all of my BUZZSAWS I was struggling badly the 7th and 8th game of the PBA blocks in the Eastern Region. This ball was the ticket to my success. I was able to get the ball cleanly through the fronts and burnt up midlane with just enough recovery to send the pins flying. An absolute gem the later games of longer blocks. This ball comes with me everywhere I go.

NOW,
On the house patterns that I bowl on. It is not very strong but allows me to be able to play straighter up the outs when nothing else I have will hold the line long enough. Everything else jumps so quick. It doesn't recover very good on a ton of oil but it wasn't made for that either.
Overall rating (1-10) Sport Shot (9) House shot (6)
Recommend for any high rev player or tournament bowler. Rev challenged will need alot of burn to be successful. Other Buzzsaws available for you.
Beans


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Re: VIPER
« Reply #11 on: December 20, 2003, 01:02:07 AM »
Brunswick Midine ball here buy a monster for a lot less.

You lameone Freaks need to realize that you can buy the Brunswick

Version of any LAmeone product.

Brunswick Ball, Brunswick Factory Made, You got hosed,

Wake up and smell the Roses !!!!!!!!

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