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Steven

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A Not So Oldie, But Goodie
« on: September 04, 2009, 03:17:16 AM »
I had a new BuzzBomb/R drilled up the other night. They're being closed out, so I decided to pick one up before the line fades into the sunset.

I didn't know what to expect, because the ball has not received a lot of love. I'm a big fan of the BuzzBomb core, and the Bleeder cover, which I've experienced on my G-Force Evolution, is durable and performs well.

The first chance I had to throw the ball was on the USBC Masters shot in our PBAX League. On this 39' pattern, the ball gets clean through the heads and generates a surprising amount of recovery. I found almost immediately that I could trust the ball and the read it was giving me on the lanes. I suspect that versatility on a THS will be even greater.

Again, I don't know why this ball generated so little love, but I suspect the BuzzBomb/R will turn out to be one of my favorites. If you've thought at all about this ball, take another look and consider picking one up.
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Re: A Not So Oldie, But Goodie
« Reply #1 on: September 04, 2009, 11:28:18 AM »
I suspect because the Buzzbomb (for the most part) was a complete POS in most peoples hands. So, if the solid was a bomb, then the pearl would be better?

I tried this out on the Fury. I had the solid and it was really condition specific. Got the pearl and it wasn't very verstile either..


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Re: A Not So Oldie, But Goodie
« Reply #2 on: September 04, 2009, 11:33:09 AM »
steven ive had one for about a month now and ive yet to figure it out. mine is 5X5, pin over bridge, cg in palm on gripline. this ball for me had a very unique roll. i suspect its because ive never had a ball with this drill pattern that reads the mid lane like this one does. most other balls ive had with this drilling ignore the mid lane all together and store all the energy for the back. this ball get decent length, reads the mids then gives me a nice pop on the back. i might try some surface adjustments, because i just am not used to the look im getting with this ball, its really condition and line specific for me right now. im fine if i can play straighter with it, i just dont have the confidence in it when it comes time to cross boards with it. the roll of it kinda reminds me of the inferno line from brunswick with more pop at the back.
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Re: A Not So Oldie, But Goodie
« Reply #3 on: September 04, 2009, 11:44:34 AM »
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I suspect because the Buzzbomb (for the most part) was a complete POS in most peoples hands. So, if the solid was a bomb, then the pearl would be better?


Here we go......

A few vocal critics of the BuzzBomb on Ballreviews doesn't make the ball a complete "POS". The bottom line is that the original performs as advertised if thrown with decent technique on the right conditions. I'm not sure anything would be accomplished going back down that road.

I'm giving you honest feedback on my first experience with the BuzzBomb/R. The performance was good enough to clean up in Sweepers and cover a good piece of the BuzzBomb/R purchase price. Maybe when I throw it on a THS, I'll find some warts, and I'll report those if I do. But right now, my feeling this is going to be a much more versatile version of the original.

On edit, I found Joe Cerar's review to be very accurate and reflective of my own experience:

http://www.bowlersjournal.com/no_holes_barred/display_article.php?id=300

Particularly, the following two observations:

"The BuzzBomb/R delivered as promised — it goes long and comes very hard off the dry.....the BuzzBomb/R revved very quickly and easily, and earned a very quick response time rating off the dry stuff."

"Bowlers will undoubtedly use the BB/R when the pattern begins to deteriorate a bit. We needed to find dry boards for this beast to strut its battleship grey mettle. We enjoyed the rev pattern and the fact we could send it and bend it and be rewarded with excellent pin carry even on releases that were less than our best. This forgiveness is what a powerful core/cover combo should deliver."

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dougb

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Re: A Not So Oldie, But Goodie
« Reply #4 on: September 04, 2009, 12:00:08 PM »
The Buzzbomb core has been discussed here, and it seems some match up with it well and others don't.  For example, my buddy and I both bought Agent Oranges.  His average immediately jumped 15 pins with this ball, as it is very forgiving in his hands and dynamite when it hits the pins.  On the other hand, I've struggled with the ball bowling right next to him.  I find it unpredictable.

The balls were drilled by the same shop and in OOB condition.  These guys drill all our equipment and know how to tailor for our styles. We actually have a lot of people throwing Lane #1 in our house and some swear by the Buzzbomb core.
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Re: A Not So Oldie, But Goodie
« Reply #5 on: September 04, 2009, 12:47:13 PM »
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I suspect because the Buzzbomb (for the most part) was a complete POS in most peoples hands. So, if the solid was a bomb, then the pearl would be better?


Here we go......

A few vocal critics of the BuzzBomb on Ballreviews doesn't make the ball a complete "POS". The bottom line is that the original performs as advertised if thrown with decent technique on the right conditions. I'm not sure anything would be accomplished going back down that road.

I'm giving you honest feedback on my first experience with the BuzzBomb/R. The performance was good enough to clean up in Sweepers and cover a good piece of the BuzzBomb/R purchase price. Maybe when I throw it on a THS, I'll find some warts, and I'll report those if I do. But right now, my feeling this is going to be a much more versatile version of the original.

On edit, I found Joe Cerar's review to be very accurate and reflective of my own experience:

http://www.bowlersjournal.com/no_holes_barred/display_article.php?id=300

Particularly, the following two observations:

"The BuzzBomb/R delivered as promised — it goes long and comes very hard off the dry.....the BuzzBomb/R revved very quickly and easily, and earned a very quick response time rating off the dry stuff."

"Bowlers will undoubtedly use the BB/R when the pattern begins to deteriorate a bit. We needed to find dry boards for this beast to strut its battleship grey mettle. We enjoyed the rev pattern and the fact we could send it and bend it and be rewarded with excellent pin carry even on releases that were less than our best. This forgiveness is what a powerful core/cover combo should deliver."

Edited on 9/4/2009 11:54 AM


Again, I don't know why this ball generated so little love, but I suspect the BuzzBomb/R will turn out to be one of my favorites. If you've thought at all about this ball, take another look and consider picking one up.

Really wasn't interested in what you thought of it or what the review was. I was simply answering this part of it.

You asked, I gave you my thoughts considering the less than steller reviews it got by even the hard core lane one guys..

 

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Re: A Not So Oldie, But Goodie
« Reply #6 on: September 04, 2009, 01:12:09 PM »
I love mine.  I bought it back in April and have found it to be a very versatile ball.  For a pearl, it rolls very heavy and starts up earlier (in the mid-lane) than most pearls I have had.  It has great continuation through the pin deck.
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Steven

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Re: A Not So Oldie, But Goodie
« Reply #7 on: September 04, 2009, 01:50:30 PM »
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You asked, I gave you my thoughts considering the less than stellar reviews it got by even the hard core lane one guys..


I'm trying to remember any less than stellar reviews from 'hard core lane one guys' who at least have some soft THS credentials. If you can dig a few up, please share.

Regardless, the pearl has the midlane characteristics of the original but much more jump off the dry. Not a flippy jump, but a hard and continuos move. That makes it a good candidate for PBA/Sport patterns where you're trying to navigate breakpoint on the backends without having the benefit of THS bumpers.
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Steven

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Re: A Not So Oldie, But Goodie
« Reply #8 on: September 04, 2009, 03:21:49 PM »
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I'll say one thing, you sure our consistent in the ways you alienate people.
 


From the man who has more BR skid marks across his forehead than anyone else in recent memory, you should be the expert on the concept of alienation.

I guess the following you recently said to Easy10pins:

 
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Yeah, and unless you are under undue duress, nobody forces you to bowl in handicap leagues. Of course, from that monster series you listed you are probably right where you belong.
 


was just your expert way of making new friends on the board. LOL....You're in no position to pass judgement on anybody.

BTW, if you have some experience with the balls being discussed, please share. Otherwise find another playpen to troll in.
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Re: A Not So Oldie, But Goodie
« Reply #9 on: September 05, 2009, 09:18:16 AM »
+ FRIGGIN 1!!!!
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urbanj51

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Re: A Not So Oldie, But Goodie
« Reply #10 on: September 05, 2009, 12:34:54 PM »
Hey I'll drink the koolaid.  I still am.  But I won't lie that there are other brands that are amazing.  Right now, the new 900 Global Bounty Hunter.  Just an amazing ball.  Strongest ball out on the market right now.  Especially for Heavy oil.  Hands down.


But the koolaid still tastes good!!  haha
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urbanj51

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Re: A Not So Oldie, But Goodie
« Reply #11 on: September 05, 2009, 01:28:50 PM »
HAHA.

Sorry Steven, but I have to agree with everyone.  I cannot say that the Doomsday core was a flop because the Agent Orange was just an absolute monster.

However, I did not like the Buzzbomb, nor did I like the BB/R.  Both did not impress me.  BB/R was squirty at best, and BB was just not reliable.  Smooth rolling, but not reliable in the long run.  Didn't react as it should, and then sometimes over-reacted.  Almost like the BB/R
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Steven

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Re: A Not So Oldie, But Goodie
« Reply #12 on: September 05, 2009, 02:43:27 PM »
urbanj51: I'll respect your individual opinion because at least you threw the BB/R, and was able to give a relevant opinion. My experience with the 2 BBs has clearly been different. Maybe I should return the several hundred dollars earned by both balls, because as Inverted has inferred, the 'turds' are just not worthy.

No ball on the planet is universally loved by everyone. And contrary to some of the troll droppings heard around here, I haven't universally loved all Lane#1 equipment. I didn't match up well with either of the Dirty Bombs, and the Enriched Uranium was very condition specific. In all three cases, I think it was the drillings I went with. I ended up relegating these balls to practice arsenal status.

I posted on the BB/R because my first experience with the ball was great. Honestly way above expectations since the ball didn't get a whole lot of press. Unless I was tricked by my first BB/R experience, this is a ball that a lot of bowlers would do well with.

Because it's being phased out, there are deals to be had. Read reviews by testers who throw lots of different equipment. I posted just one above. Look at some of the YouTube videos. The BB/R is a ball to be strongly considered if you have an open mind about equipment.
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Re: A Not So Oldie, But Goodie
« Reply #13 on: September 05, 2009, 03:04:53 PM »
You are correct.  I agree.  Certain balls don't match up with certain individuals.  Case in point.  I love the AO, but do not care for BB/R or BB solid as much.  Both can be used and they were great at points for me, but not always.

For instance, everyone raves about the Silver Diamond as one of the best balls made by Lane 1.  I on the other hand, hate it.  I jumped on top of one the first chance I got.  And I was sorely disappointed.  That ball is worth less than the XXXL Plastic ball.

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Re: A Not So Oldie, But Goodie
« Reply #14 on: September 05, 2009, 03:49:51 PM »
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You are correct. I agree. Certain balls don't match up with certain individuals. Case in point. I love the AO, but do not care for BB/R or BB solid as much. Both can be used and they were great at points for me, but not always.


Urban is correct here. For example, I too had the BB/R and it didn't perform well for me at all, but the Agent Orange became the first ball out of my bag in the summer league this summer and still is.  I love that ball and it's hit/pin carry.


Another example of balls matching up or not matching up to people is the Super Nova XP. A lot of people loved that ball and many that disposed of theirs to move on to newer equipment now wish they had kept their XP.

Upon hearing others love for this ball, I hunted around and found one in 14# which is what I throw. I bought it, drilled it, and it turned out to be a total flop for me. Big mistake....so I am thinking about disposing of it rather than plug and redrill to a different lay-out to see if that would help and take the chance it still might fail. Hard to let a ball go that is in pristine condition with not a scratch or anything and less than 5 games on it.


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