Post by: rvmark on April 17, 2009, 05:36:15 AM
Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
Mark
Edited on 4/17/2009 1:37 PM
Post by: triggerman on April 17, 2009, 01:37:31 PM
got a few in stock, pm me
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Post by: Nicanor on April 17, 2009, 01:43:45 PM
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Post by: jls on April 17, 2009, 02:04:59 PM
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Looking at possibly buying another ball, have thrown, Brunswick, Hammer, Storm and Roto Grip in the past. Currently looking for a new ball to throw in a summer scratch league. Looking for something that would be good for medium-medium heavy oil. I have never thrown Lane 1 and have not seen any in my area, looking for some advice as to what you might suggest. I am a tweener with ave revs and throw anywhere from 14.5-17 mph. Might note that I am not looking for Hook in a box, I would like something that is controllable.
Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
Mark
Edited on 4/17/2009 1:37 PM
"controllable" I would suggest the Break Point.
It reads the mid lanes well and is smooth and predictable off the break.
And it may just be the hardest hitting ball in their line.
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Post by: T-GOD on April 17, 2009, 02:57:39 PM
Post by: bowlerdawg on April 17, 2009, 03:41:58 PM
quit trying to stir stuff up
med -med heavy = dynamo or a buzzbomb
buzzbomb ( original / solid ) was a great med - med heavy ball
more controllable for me than the dynamo
my vote Buzzbomb
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Post by: sluggo35 on April 17, 2009, 03:53:42 PM
Post by: jls on April 17, 2009, 04:17:17 PM
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for the record break point is made by global 900 not L1 jls
quit trying to stir stuff up
med -med heavy = dynamo or a buzzbomb
buzzbomb ( original / solid ) was a great med - med heavy ball
more controllable for me than the dynamo
my vote Buzzbomb
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B-dawg
He said he was "looking for a new ball, and he has never thrown Lane One"
Now exactly where does it say he asked for a Lane One Ball???
The dynamo????? Isn't that suppose to be a hook monster??????
You know, 5 boards wider!!!!!!!!
Maybe all of you should learn how to READ. He said, he didn't want hook in the box".
Now for the last 3 months all we have heard here is BLA BLA BLA hook monster big backend BLA BLA BLA dynamo...
Now all of a sudden it is a control ball????????
You sawheads are unreal.....
RVMARK, do yourself a favor, get out of this site, these sawheads will tell you any line of B.S. Most have probably Never ever bought a $200-$240 Lane One ball new...
I told you about a ball that will work, and it will match up to what you said you were looking for...
"Ball of the year" the dynamo!!!!!
"Need to make the lanes 5 boards wider" >>> And now a control ball!!!
Ya right.
RVMARK, this groupies are so into themselves, that they would recommend anything to you.... A dynamo???? It is suppose to be a hook monster...
Do yourself a favor, and just think about what you asked for, and what some of these know nothing groupies recommended...
good luck
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Edited on 4/17/2009 4:19 PM
Post by: jls on April 17, 2009, 04:25:54 PM
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jls is a hater jerk disregard him
Rvmark, I told you about a ball that will work and matched up to what you said you were looking for. The classless sawheads came on and recommended balls that are supposed to be hook monster's. The Dynamo!!!!!!
The classless ebay used ball shoppers will tell you anything. But if you really think the Dynamo or the a go long ball is best for you, like they say...
Then BUY IT.....
Larry M is a sawhead wan a bee ebay shopper!!!!!
good luck
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Post by: JessN16 on April 17, 2009, 04:27:42 PM
First of all, ignore jls. He jokes a lot.
As far as ball recommendations, you and I have pretty much exact stats in regards to revs and speed. And, like you, I've thrown (and continue to throw) equipment from multiple companies. What you get from the Lane #1 line depends on what kind of look you're trying to create for yourself on the lanes.
If you like a ball that has the potential to be very angular, you can still find the Supernova XP (not the regular Supernova) for a good price. Ask that it be polished after drilling. That ball can really turn a corner.
If you like a ball that rolls heavy, I would echo the recommendations for something with the Doomsday core in it. That would be the Agent Orange, BuzzBomb or BuzzBomb/R. I have the BuzzBomb/R and it is a good medium ball for me. Not as angular as you would expect a pearl to be. The BuzzBomb solid and Agent Orange are going to be stronger still due to coverstock differences.
I have no experience with the Dynamo at all. Judging from what others have said, it will be more angular than the Doomsday-cored balls. Its core is more similar to the Supernova, so that makes sense.
If you shop on eBay, you can still find the old G-Force Evolution and G-Force Nebula balls at insanely cheap prices. I have found the Evolution to be very condition-specific. It doesn't like oil but it will do tricks in the backend. The Nebula, being a particle pearl, should smooth that reaction out a good bit.
Again, I would figure out what look you want to create, then reverse-engineer a strategy that will get you to that point.
Jess
Post by: jls on April 17, 2009, 04:33:33 PM
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rvmark,
First of all, ignore jls. He jokes a lot.
As far as ball recommendations, you and I have pretty much exact stats in regards to revs and speed. And, like you, I've thrown (and continue to throw) equipment from multiple companies. What you get from the Lane #1 line depends on what kind of look you're trying to create for yourself on the lanes.
If you like a ball that has the potential to be very angular, you can still find the Supernova XP (not the regular Supernova) for a good price. Ask that it be polished after drilling. That ball can really turn a corner.
If you like a ball that rolls heavy, I would echo the recommendations for something with the Doomsday core in it. That would be the Agent Orange, BuzzBomb or BuzzBomb/R. I have the BuzzBomb/R and it is a good medium ball for me. Not as angular as you would expect a pearl to be. The BuzzBomb solid and Agent Orange are going to be stronger still due to coverstock differences.
I have no experience with the Dynamo at all. Judging from what others have said, it will be more angular than the Doomsday-cored balls. Its core is more similar to the Supernova, so that makes sense.
If you shop on eBay, you can still find the old G-Force Evolution and G-Force Nebula balls at insanely cheap prices. I have found the Evolution to be very condition-specific. It doesn't like oil but it will do tricks in the backend. The Nebula, being a particle pearl, should smooth that reaction out a good bit.
Again, I would figure out what look you want to create, then reverse-engineer a strategy that will get you to that point.
Jess
Rvmark, at least this guy appears to know what he is talking about. "more Angular" and "control ball" do not mix.....
Notice he felt that the A.O. and the dynamo were more angular.....
Those others who posted and said the A.O. or the Dynamo, makes you wonder about them.... Control ball???
Becareful, this site is full of hateful people called saeheads, and as you NOW CAN PLAINLY SEE, they will fill your head with B.S.
good luck
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Post by: jls on April 17, 2009, 04:38:42 PM
quote:
Looking at possibly buying another ball, have thrown, Brunswick, Hammer, Storm and Roto Grip in the past. Currently looking for a new ball to throw in a summer scratch league. Looking for something that would be good for medium-medium heavy oil. I have never thrown Lane 1 and have not seen any in my area, looking for some advice as to what you might suggest. I am a tweener with ave revs and throw anywhere from 14.5-17 mph. Might note that I am not looking for Hook in a box, I would like something that is controllable.
Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
Mark
"i would like something that is controllable"
"not looking for hook in the box" ......Hello sawheads, anybody home???
Now look at what some of those know nothing groupies suggested!!!!
They buy their balls used on ebay....
They know less then nothing....
good luck, cause with this know nothing groupies, you will be needing it...
Hey, ask they for a good 10 pin ball!!!!!
50-1 they will say a dynamo!!!!
Edited on 4/17/2009 1:37 PM
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Post by: bowlerdawg on April 17, 2009, 06:12:12 PM
he posted his question in the L1 forum, which, suggest he wants a L1 ball.
see the logic ?
i'm sure you see why one would object to your ball suggestion.
and the dynamo is controllable in a med-med-heavy environment
now get over yourself, and get back to your ZOO animals troll
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Post by: Nicanor on April 17, 2009, 06:36:36 PM
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Post by: rvmark on April 17, 2009, 07:54:55 PM
Mark
Post by: T-GOD on April 17, 2009, 09:42:07 PM
The BuzzBOMB/R is also a good control ball, but won't handle as much oil as the Dynamo. =:^D
Post by: A_P_K on April 17, 2009, 09:53:38 PM
You can still find those cheap.
I'd say you can get away with it in OOB on upper mediums, needs a bit of head oil because the cover is a bit stronger than you'd expect. I like mine more with some of the shine off.
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Post by: Doug Sterner on April 18, 2009, 12:13:47 AM
Both balls are solid resins so therefore can be tweaked to suit the desired reaction. Everything from 400 grit dull up to 4000 grit both with or without polish can be used effectively.
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Post by: Gazoo on April 18, 2009, 10:45:45 AM
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Post by: jls on April 18, 2009, 11:41:02 AM
quote:
Looking at possibly buying another ball, have thrown, Brunswick, Hammer, Storm and Roto Grip in the past. Currently looking for a new ball to throw in a summer scratch league. Looking for something that would be good for medium-medium heavy oil. I have never thrown Lane 1 and have not seen any in my area, looking for some advice as to what you might suggest. I am a tweener with ave revs and throw anywhere from 14.5-17 mph. Might note that I am not looking for Hook in a box, I would like something that is controllable.
Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
Mark
Edited on 4/17/2009 1:37 PM
Rvmark, well since you have never seen a Lane One ball, maybe Trig will stop by!!!!!!
Now sorry I suggested a different brand to you....
Was trying to help...
But I'm sure the "hook" monster's most recommended to you will work just fine...are your lanes 5 boards wider?
Now go to ebay and start placing your bids....
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Post by: bowlerdawg on April 18, 2009, 12:43:50 PM
quote:quote:
Looking at possibly buying another ball, have thrown, Brunswick, Hammer, Storm and Roto Grip in the past. Currently looking for a new ball to throw in a summer scratch league. Looking for something that would be good for medium-medium heavy oil. I have never thrown Lane 1 and have not seen any in my area, looking for some advice as to what you might suggest. I am a tweener with ave revs and throw anywhere from 14.5-17 mph. Might note that I am not looking for Hook in a box, I would like something that is controllable.
Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
Mark
Edited on 4/17/2009 1:37 PM
Rvmark, well since you have never seen a Lane One ball, maybe Trig will stop by!!!!!!
Now sorry I suggested a different brand to you....
Was trying to help...
But I'm sure the "hook" monster's most recommended to you will work just fine...are your lanes 5 boards wider?
Now go to ebay and start placing your bids....
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he is not even a sawhead yet, and you are already slamming him, and questioning his character..........wow real classy jls
+1 vote for the original BB
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Post by: rvmark on April 18, 2009, 04:34:35 PM
Explain to me exactly what is your problem with someone coming onto to a forum and asking questions, you do not know even the slightest thing about me, you have never met me and you have never bowled with or against me. If you have an axe to grind with others then do it in another thread and leave me out of it.
Mark
Post by: rvmark on April 28, 2009, 03:16:55 PM
Mark
Post by: bowlerdawg on April 28, 2009, 03:19:30 PM
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Post by: rvmark on April 28, 2009, 04:41:10 PM
Mark
Post by: T-GOD on April 28, 2009, 06:39:31 PM
Post by: bowlerdawg on April 28, 2009, 07:01:44 PM
both of my BB's were winners
highest set of the season came on one
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Post by: bowlerdawg on April 28, 2009, 07:48:38 PM
i double dawg dare you to get one yourself, and see
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Post by: rvmark on April 28, 2009, 08:21:14 PM
I will let you know what my impressions of Massacre are after I receive it. To be honest I have had success throwing balls from Hammer, Ebonite, Storm, Brunswick, Roto Grip and the Old Columbia 300. As for being overpriced I paid less than I did for my Hammer Black Widow or my Roto Grip Grand Illusion, both balls that I like and still have in my arsenal. Until I inquired about a Lane 1 ball I had not spent much time in this section of the forum and I have found the apparent running feud between a few of you and the Lane 1 loyal to be comical. I may or may not like the ball but that is really for me to decide. If I don't like the ball I will also be honest about that as well.
Mark
Post by: bowlerdawg on April 28, 2009, 08:30:44 PM
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I will let you know what my impressions of Massacre are after I receive it. To be honest I have had success throwing balls from Hammer, Ebonite, Storm, Brunswick, Roto Grip and the Old Columbia 300. As for being overpriced I paid less than I did for my Hammer Black Widow or my Roto Grip Grand Illusion, both balls that I like and still have in my arsenal. Until I inquired about a Lane 1 ball I had not spent much time in this section of the forum and I have found the apparent running feud between a few of you and the Lane 1 loyal to be comical. I may or may not like the ball but that is really for me to decide. If I don't like the ball I will also be honest about that as well.
Mark
well said, and i am glad you see the humor
many people just report you to mommy, when in reality,
i enjoy and respect people who have a different opinions ( except for cguSUKBIGFATONES
)you will not be disappointed
3 possible drills
label
cg out ( pin above ) **** seems to be the layout of choice ****
stacked leverage
can't go wrong w/ any of them, and go w/ a layout you are comfortable with
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Post by: triggerman on April 29, 2009, 07:46:06 AM
quote:quote:
i don't think so mi amigo
i double dawg dare you to get one yourself, and see
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I'm your huckleberry
I may, as soon as some of you folks start bailing out of them and put them up for sale. I'd like to try the AO as well.
I'd have to find one of you that still throws man-weight balls. None of this 14 or 15 lbs bs..
Oh, and I refuse to pay high retail for any ball, especially lane#1
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c(')(') here bunny bunny bunny....
IMHO
AO was and is twice the ball of the BB or BB/R cover core match up was far superior. Not enough games on my Massacre to claim it to lofty standards, but it looks promising at this point. Dynamo AO are my one-two punch, both seem to give me a great look with above average carry
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Post by: completebowler on April 29, 2009, 07:58:07 AM
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Buzzbomb was a buzzbust for me. Died 30 ft down the lane on med heavy oil..
Try one of the others if you want to throw lane #1, stay away from this POS..
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c(')(') here bunny bunny bunny....
I love L1, but I have had very little success with any of the bomb cores. HDB gave me a 300 and first game of an 800 set but other than that I had nothing but headaches. I chalked it up to the core being a bad match-up for me. This happens sometimes Inverted, as I am sure you know. I did however see much improvement in some of these with different cover preps, although it took quite a bit of experimenting.
That said I have a buddy that has a huge rev rate that I sold both of my BB's to and with 2 different layouts they are the best 1-2 combo he has ever had. So, not a bad ball, just a bad match-up.
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Post by: Steven on April 29, 2009, 09:43:27 AM
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I've owned several pieces the latest being the buzzbomb. Quite possibly the most overhyped, over priced POS in the history of Lane#1
Wow. I've found my BuzzBomb to be very similar to my SCB, but with a little more kick on the backend. On the soup they laid down for our quarterly rolloff, I was one of the few who could get recovery and carry. The heavier handed guys who were struggling weren't happy with me.
The BuzzBomb was a big reason we won the stepladder, and I'll be netting at least $500 for the effort. If that's what a POS does for you, keep shoveling it at me.....quote:
I've had people tell me that due to my style, the diamond core wont work for me..bullseye!
Corrected for accuracy. The diamond works extremely well for those who can get their ball into a hard earlier roll. For reasons you understand fully, that's not your style. It doesn't mean you're not effective or otherwise solid, but you won't get maximum benefit from the diamond. Look at it this way -- it's always good to have something to work on.
Post by: AK47 on April 29, 2009, 10:10:12 AM
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I made my choice after looking at my current arsenal and all the suggestions and decided to try the Massacre, I do not currently have a pearl in my lineup for the medium oil. I appreciate all the comments and ordered ball from drill wizard as my current pro shop's distributor did not have any available. Will post info on thoughts after I receive ball and have the opportunity to throw.
Mark
ANOTHER MASSACRE MAN
only prob is you've got a ball that will definately hook on the backend..... If you don't like to open up the lanes, you might not like.... sorry i missed this thread i would have recommend a Nebula(most controllable ball i have) or carbide plus or Enriched Uranium if you could find the later 2, probably can find a Nebula for $100 or less.... Massacre is an awesome ball!
Post by: Steven on April 29, 2009, 10:31:53 AM
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I disagree. There are plenty of people on this site who don't nearly have the rev rate on their ball as I do on mine, yet, watching them bowl, they tear it up with a L#1 ball in their hands with a minimum of revs or hook.
Inverted: I didn't mean for my comments to be an indictment on your style. As I said before, I found you to be solid overall. And with the difference in our respective styles, I can definitely see conditions where you'd have success where I'd struggle getting through the heads.
Before seeing you bowl, I had wondered how anyone could not find some level of success with the Uranium and the BB. If I remember correctly, you also said you weren't thrilled the Cell (correct me if I'm wrong here). Again, none of this made sense.
After seeing you bowl, it became more clear. A heavy rolling diamond is going to be much more effective when it gets into an earlier roll. It's not so much the revs, but when the ball gets going in motion. You don't have to change anything. It's more of an understanding of what's happening.
Post by: triggerman on April 29, 2009, 11:16:34 AM
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True dat!
It's pretty simpple, really. They just dont do anything for me or my game and I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one..
Just the most vocal
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Post by: triggerman on April 29, 2009, 08:49:41 PM
I can say this as I am a founding member of the FOS. long before any of you even visited this site i as well as some of the other long time supporters of lane 1 love your enthusiasm but we do get tired of you all getting lumped into a catergory of being brainless twits, think before you speak please
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Post by: Nicanor on April 29, 2009, 10:32:56 PM
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Post by: burly1 on April 30, 2009, 08:29:59 AM
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Post by: Nicanor on April 30, 2009, 08:45:29 AM
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Post by: ecc0_9879 on April 30, 2009, 08:49:57 AM
Post by: goose194 on April 30, 2009, 09:12:23 AM
The Lane #1 THS.