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DonSVO

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i was throwing my practice shots with my new GN today, and a couple guys were watching me roll it. they BOTH said the same things.

i was playing my favorite line (15 to 7)with some of my other equipment but was being forced to let it hang outside more than i am used to with this ball. so i moved in and threw it over the middle arrow out to 10, and it came back nicely with a solid wind-up. one of the fellows mentioned i was playing alot deeper than i usually do, so i said 'check this roll...', went to my usual mark and aimed about 2 boards left of it (lefty bowler) and let it loose. the ball went out to 4 board, checked and turned hard for the pocket and killed all 10. i went to the right lane, did it again with a bit less speed, and the ball came back from 2... and still hit like a train. that one was followed by Bob muttering 'gawddamm!', and i laughed.

"man, is that ball versatile!"

and, after watching a few heavy-into-the-headpin strikes... they next said exactly what i was thinking.

"the pins just go everywhere on the deck!"

and that was the one thing i said last night after throwing it the first time that dawned on me. somehow, that core keeps the pins low. i NEVER had a pin take off and jump like i do with my Ultimate Inferno, or any of my V2s. they helicopter and stay at pin-level. i got quite a few ba$tard-strikes today because of sheer carry potential.

i am not one to buy into hype, but the more Diamond cores i throw, the more i believe that the core design can work well in the hands of the right bowler. for me, the pins kill each other. i had a 4-7-10 killed off by a SINGLE messenger! ball hit heavy, a pin dinked the sideboard and clipped the 10 on its way to hatcheting the 4-7 on the other end of the deck. low pins = better carry.
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funniest thing i have ever read on here:

originally posted by Bjaardker, about if brunswick sells 2nds/blems:

Yeah, they're called Lane #1s....

JUST KIDDING!!!



Edited on 2/14/2005 0:28 AM

 

charlest

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Re: after today with my golden nugget, i know why Lane 1 works so well.
« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2005, 06:41:27 AM »
Don,

While I still believe the Golden Nugget is a hidden gem, as evidenced by the fact that I still have an undrilled one in the basement, and I have seen it hit as hard as any ball ever, please do not mistake a blended house shot for the ball's versatility. Your GN coming back further and further as you throw it further outside, sounds more like THS than the ball's ability. Hey, I really like this ball; so I'm not putting it down. Just reminding you that any ball alone is only capable of just so much. Sounds like you're not such a bad bowler, also. Keep your eye on the target!
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DonSVO

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Re: after today with my golden nugget, i know why Lane 1 works so well.
« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2005, 08:19:40 AM »
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Don,

Hey, I really like this ball; so I'm not putting it down. Just reminding you that any ball alone is only capable of just so much. Sounds like you're not such a bad bowler, also. Keep your eye on the target!


i agree about the THS thing, but i wasn't letting it roll up on a wall, either. it was breaking out about42-44 feet, well past the 36' mark of the oil. it responds very well to changes in hand position, speed, and hand RPM.
either way, we shall see how it does this fine evening at the pot games.
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funniest thing i have ever read on here:

originally posted by Bjaardker, about if brunswick sells 2nds/blems:

Yeah, they're called Lane #1s....

JUST KIDDING!!!


charlest

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Re: after today with my golden nugget, i know why Lane 1 works so well.
« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2005, 11:57:55 AM »
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Don,

Hey, I really like this ball; so I'm not putting it down. Just reminding you that any ball alone is only capable of just so much. Sounds like you're not such a bad bowler, also. Keep your eye on the target!


i agree about the THS thing, but i wasn't letting it roll up on a wall, either. it was breaking out about42-44 feet, well past the 36' mark of the oil. it responds very well to changes in hand position, speed, and hand RPM.
either way, we shall see how it does this fine evening at the pot games.
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DOn,

I wasn't indicating otherwise. Just a gentle reminder.
Good luck tonight! (Will probably pay for another Golden Nugget for the future.)
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Re: after today with my golden nugget, i know why Lane 1 works so well.
« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2005, 03:20:46 PM »
Don,

Not long ago I too thought all the Lane#1 stuff was hype. However, I gave their line a fair chance (i.e. I actually tried a few), and I've come to agree with your following statement:

 
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i am not one to buy into hype, but the more Diamond cores i throw, the more i believe that the core design can work well in the hands of the right bowler.


When you release a ball with the diamond core correctly, the pins do stay lower and inflict serious damage. It's amazing to watch.  

On the other hand, the diamond core will hit like a marshmallow with a less than optimal delivery. That's why many give the line a bad rap.

The bottom line is that Lane#1 is different. It's up to each individual bowler to decide if the "difference" is conducive to his/her game.
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Re: after today with my golden nugget, i know why Lane 1 works so well.
« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2005, 03:37:02 PM »
Steven said,  
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The bottom line is that Lane#1 is different. It's up to each individual bowler to decide if the "difference" is conducive to his/her game.


LOL, maybe that's why I like Buzzsaws.  Many folks have mentioned over the years that I'm "different".  But I'm sure they meant well.  

Steven, answer this if you will.  Do you think that the reason some folks match up better than others with 'Saws has anything to do with roll?  I've often been told that, for whatever reason, I had a "heavier" roll than others.  Now I don't have a clue what that means, but I wonder if it doesn't somehow translate to Buzzsaws working better for me.
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Re: after today with my golden nugget, i know why Lane 1 works so well.
« Reply #6 on: February 14, 2005, 03:51:38 PM »
I've always been a bowler in search of a better rolling ball, but the Buzzsaw price point always scared me off even though I suspected they would be a very good fit for my game. I was fortunate to have someone give me an old black Buzzsaw last summer and after throwing it came to the conclusion that this particular ball carried MUCH better than anything else I threw apart from my Sage Quantum (although it needs more back end help than the Buzzsaw). My Buzzsaw keeps the pins very low and just flat out hits. For me, it carries noticeably better than my Ultimate Inferno, Intense Inferno, Flipside Wow, Assassin, and V2 Sanded, to name a few (Note: the V2 Sanded is my best carrying ball of that group mentioned, by the way).

All that being said, the price point still scares me off a bit, if anything because I've already blown my budget on other equipment that ended up not fitting my game as well. I guess I'll have to start saving up to get a Buzzsaw next year! Or better yet, my friend will give me one of his old purple Buzzsaws next!
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DonSVO

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Re: after today with my golden nugget, i know why Lane 1 works so well.
« Reply #7 on: February 14, 2005, 03:54:05 PM »
ragnar, here's a good question to answer your question: how come i HATE the bomb core balls? my black cherry bomb and my pearl cherry were both given the heave-ho shortly after drilling them. they don't match up to my style at all. however, i have been nothing but PLEASED with every diamond core i have/had.

the answer for both i think has already been given. different bowlers match well with different balls.
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funniest thing i have ever read on here:

originally posted by Bjaardker, about if brunswick sells 2nds/blems:

Yeah, they're called Lane #1s....

JUST KIDDING!!!


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Re: after today with my golden nugget, i know why Lane 1 works so well.
« Reply #8 on: February 14, 2005, 03:57:36 PM »
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All that being said, the price point still scares me off a bit, if anything because I've already blown my budget...


buy used

see signature! looks don't equal $$$
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funniest thing i have ever read on here:

originally posted by Bjaardker, about if brunswick sells 2nds/blems:

Yeah, they're called Lane #1s....

JUST KIDDING!!!


Rockbowler

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Re: after today with my golden nugget, i know why Lane 1 works so well.
« Reply #9 on: February 14, 2005, 04:03:58 PM »
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When you release a ball with the diamond core correctly, the pins do stay lower and inflict serious damage. It's amazing to watch.  

On the other hand, the diamond core will hit like a marshmallow with a less than optimal delivery. That's why many give the line a bad rap.




I have used Buzzsaws for a long time and I agree. However, I think you can get the most out of any ball with a correct release. But it is all about the carry with Buzzsaw cores (in my experience). Also, some Buzzsaw balls have more forgiveness than others, I find the Uraniums to be a bit release sensitive but the high-powered cores of the SCB, BCB and Cherry bombs are more forgiving.

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Re: after today with my golden nugget, i know why Lane 1 works so well.
« Reply #10 on: February 14, 2005, 04:48:57 PM »
I THINK FOR THE AVERAGE LEAGUE BOWLER,HE WILL SEE A DIFFERENCE IN CARRY....WHEN BOWLERS I KNOW,GET A BUZZSAW,THEY ALL SEEM TO BE GETTING BETTER SCORES AND ALSO MOST OF THEM COME BACK AND BUY ANOTHER BALL.
I THINK WHEN YOU ARE AT A PRO LEVEL,MOST BOWLERS CAN GET THE BEST OUT OF ANY BALL,BEING ABLE TO CHANGE THE HAND POSITION AND DELIVERY,BUT FOR THE REST OF US,AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED,BUZZSAWS CAN REALLY HELP THE LEAGUE BOWLER WITH SCORING ETC...

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Re: after today with my golden nugget, i know why Lane 1 works so well.
« Reply #11 on: February 14, 2005, 04:49:51 PM »
The REAL reason they work is those coverstocks.......Hehehe  *runs*
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DonSVO

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Re: after today with my golden nugget, i know why Lane 1 works so well.
« Reply #12 on: February 14, 2005, 06:55:09 PM »
*chasing andy with a hammer, and i'm not talking about FaBall!*
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funniest thing i have ever read on here:

originally posted by Bjaardker, about if brunswick sells 2nds/blems:

Yeah, they're called Lane #1s....

JUST KIDDING!!!