Author Topic: Agent Orange compared to Dynamo, Part 2 (Read 3155 times)

FastTracker33 · « **on:** April 15, 2009, 01:21:32 PM »

Hello everyone,

After the last thread went to the dumps, I thought i'd make a new one. I was waiting for responses, because I was also curious of a comparison, but that never happened.

Please, I repeat, PLEASE keep this thread normal. (if that's even possible)

Otherwise, it will be locked.

Thanks!
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Buzzhead · « **Reply #1 on:** April 15, 2009, 09:37:03 PM »

brian, you talking lane #1 normal or NORMAL NORMAL... LOL??

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SVstar34 · « **Reply #2 on:** April 15, 2009, 09:46:11 PM »

he wants Normal Normal... I'm pretty sure those of us, including me who were interested in this thread would like to hear a comparison from people who have thrown both
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Nicanor · « **Reply #3 on:** April 16, 2009, 09:27:47 AM »

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The Agent Orange for me is much more controlled then the Dynamo. The AO doesn't have the gigantic backend the dynamo has. The Dynamo box, AO at 2000. The Dynamo I have has the pin in the ring finger and the MB/CG kicked right about 2 inches of the thumb. The length on this ball suprised me. When it hit the break point it made a very strong move to the pocket. The AO, drilled pin under the ring finger MB/CG kicked right of thumb about 2 inches, playing the same line did not recover as well. Moved a little right and the ball still carried tremendously.

For me, the Dynamo is a much better swing ball then the AO. The AO is more of a roll ball and the Dynamo is more of an explosive ball. With the Dynamo I can chase the oil line all the way across the lane with great carry, but if I try that with the AO, quickly it will leave 10 pins.

So for more of down and in control with great carry I like the AO. If I want to open up the lane, I like to use the Dynamo.

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absoluteisanidiot · « **Reply #4 on:** April 16, 2009, 10:07:08 AM »

I've used them both and the Agent Orange will handle a bigger volume of oil and is more angular off the dry, on the other hand the Dynamo is smooth through the front and hard arcing on the back and will handle a bit less oil than the Agent. Both balls are very versatile when polished and can handle med to oily conditions. Out of box they should be used for oily specific conditions. Both are excellent balls and quite comparable with in my opinion the Agent will handle more oil with the Dynamo being more versatile and can be used on more conditions.

Hope this helps. Good luck and good bowling.

JessN16 · « **Reply #5 on:** April 16, 2009, 01:47:51 PM »

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For me, the Dynamo is a much better swing ball then the AO. The AO is more of a roll ball and the Dynamo is more of an explosive ball. With the Dynamo I can chase the oil line all the way across the lane with great carry, but if I try that with the AO, quickly it will leave 10 pins.

So for more of down and in control with great carry I like the AO. If I want to open up the lane, I like to use the Dynamo.

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Thanks for posting this. Even though I have neither ball, I can definitely understand why this would be so.

Exempting coverstocks from the discussion for a moment -- Core in the Dynamo is most like either the WAS or Fusion core (and the Fusion is basically the WAS core with a density puck inside), while the core in the AO is the same core (Doomsday) as the BuzzBomb/R.

I have two WAS/Fusion balls -- Evo, XP. Both are angular.

I have one Doomsday ball -- BuzzBomb/R. It likes to roll heavily.

Jess

AK47 · « **Reply #6 on:** April 16, 2009, 02:17:11 PM »

I have both.... hard comparison, cause both balls flares out very well, both balls recover very well (dynamo a lil more than AO).... I guess if you're looking for a Heavy rolling, Hard Hitting, then you're going to want to go with the AO, But don't expect the ANGULAR reaction of the CHAINSAW MASSACRE, not even close! The dynamo for me has a little less carry than the AO, so overall i prefer the AO over the Dynamo, but the Dynamo is a good ball.

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jls · « **Reply #7 on:** April 16, 2009, 03:10:58 PM »

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Has anyone put the sauce right over the 500 grit oob surface of the AO?

Wouldn't that make it more angular and have an s/s type reaction similar to the CM..
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No, never put the sauce on any ball that was at a 500 oob finish.

Usually take the ball up to 2000 or 3000 or 4000 first, then apply the Sauce.

To me putting it on a ball at a 500 pad still leaves the ball with too much early grip.

Note, 3000 is a superpad.
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absoluteisanidiot · « **Reply #8 on:** April 17, 2009, 08:39:40 AM »

jls is right here always use the abralone steps first before applying any sauce as far as dull out of box surface balls go.

triggerman · « **Reply #9 on:** April 17, 2009, 08:48:18 AM »

AO at 4k abralon is prefect never used polish, no need to
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AK47 · « **Reply #10 on:** April 17, 2009, 09:16:08 AM »

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AO at 4k abralon is prefect never used polish, no need to
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FastTracker33 · « **Reply #11 on:** April 17, 2009, 09:22:12 AM »

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Has anyone put the sauce right over the 500 grit oob surface of the AO?

Wouldn't that make it more angular and have an s/s type reaction similar to the CM..
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No, never put the sauce on any ball that was at a 500 oob finish.

Usually take the ball up to 2000 or 3000 or 4000 first, then apply the Sauce.

To me putting it on a ball at a 500 pad still leaves the ball with too much early grip.

Note, 3000 is a superpad.
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If you apply the Sauce on a ball at 4000 abralon, it will probably slide forever. The Sauce has an abrasive in it, so applying it to a ball right over 500 abralon is a good choice.

JMO..
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Steven · « **Reply #12 on:** April 17, 2009, 09:31:00 AM »

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I've used them both and the Agent Orange will handle a bigger volume of oil and is more angular off the dry, on the other hand the Dynamo is smooth through the front and hard arcing on the back and will handle a bit less oil than the Agent.

First, I haven't personally used either ball. However, I do have the BuzzBomb (solid version of AO) and I've watched the AO and Dynamo in action by other bowlers who I have respect for.

Based on all this, I agree with absoluteisanidiot's assessment above. The AO appears more angular off the dry, while the Dynamo seems to have more of a hard arching characteristic. They are both aggressive, so it just depends on the type of breakpoint reaction you're trying to achieve.

BeansProShop · « **Reply #13 on:** April 17, 2009, 09:32:38 AM »

What grit you put the Sauce over is all a matter of preference. I have an AO at 500 OOB with Sauce over it and it still handles oil well but doesn't read immediately and poof on the back. It still needs good oil though.

I also have my other AO at 1000 with Sauce and it is more useable on a wider variety of conditions.

Any and all THS....

It is also good for the shorter and medium length Challenge/PBA patterns...

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jls · « **Reply #14 on:** April 17, 2009, 11:19:52 AM »

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Has anyone put the sauce right over the 500 grit oob surface of the AO?

Wouldn't that make it more angular and have an s/s type reaction similar to the CM..
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No, never put the sauce on any ball that was at a 500 oob finish.

Usually take the ball up to 2000 or 3000 or 4000 first, then apply the Sauce.

To me putting it on a ball at a 500 pad still leaves the ball with too much early grip.

Note, 3000 is a superpad.
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jls

If you apply the Sauce on a ball at 4000 abralon, it will probably slide forever. The Sauce has an abrasive in it, so applying it to a ball right over 500 abralon is a good choice.

JMO..
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Fast, first I was answering a question. Not assuming what will happen if you put sauce on a ball. Stating what we do here daily!!!!

For those with hand, putting sauce over the 4000 A-Pad is normal.
For those with little or no hand, leaving the cover at 4000 is better.
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Edited on 4/17/2009 1:48 PM