There's a lot of whining and beyattch-slapping in this thread. Relax guys.

It's all about match-up... just ask Patrick Allen. Bowler of the year and on top of the world a year ago; switches to Track and he can't catch a bone. After 6 months he goed back to Ebonite and voila he wins in his first event.

I purchased a Tsunami here on the board.... didn't do a thing for me. I sold it to a teammate and it is magic in his hands! He loves it.... and another of my teammates has thrown it and it matches up perfect for him too.

My LIMITED experience with the stuff matches exactly what my favorite pro shop tells me... that high rev and lower speed guys love it because the diamond provides a very even reaction.  I guess a lot of companies have a charactoristic to their equipment (Storm (skid-snap) vs Big B (early roll)).

Every company tosses out claims of improved performance with their new gear...from AMF to X-caliber. Nobody has every sold a product with claims of "it's almost as good as what you already own." Lane #1 isn't the only one who makes claims. And if you think the Lane #1 guys act like groupies, you should check out the Brunswick forum. Talk about drinking the Kool-aid.



 


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Sounds like a perfect match!


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Re-Evolution: Chill out and little a take a deep breath:

 

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Steven,
Where in the world did you ever get the idea that an asymmetrical ball will give you artificially enhanced hooking action and will cover up a bad release or differences in release, speed, etc.

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An asymmetric with a strong MB drilled in the strong position can provide a significant amount of free hook. If you know how to use that to your advantage on a wet/dry THS, you can generate 'artificially enhanced hooking action' without a lot of hand. That's all I communicated in my prior post. This is fact and shouldn't be upsetting to you. So on certain conditions, this type of setup can minimize the penalty a bowler pays for a less than optimal release. It's the phenomena that allows some true 180-200 average bowlers to bump up to 215-220 on conditions they know how to exploit.

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That is one of the most false statements I have ever seen.

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Hopefully, the concept doesn't seem so false to you anymore.

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Strong asymmetrical balls are more sensitive to release, speed, drilling, etc. You have to roll the ball more consistent with asymmetrical balls to have consistency, not the other way around.

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True. And according to this, with strong asymmetric setups, you can release the ball consistently on the weak side and generate more hook than otherwise possible on certain conditions.  

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You can also drill symmetrical balls to have increased backend or a smooth forgiving shape, just not to as high a degree.

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Precisely, "just not to as high a degree". It's the higher degree the strong asymmetric allows that empowers the skilled THS bowler who is consistent but doesn't have a lot of hand to generate more hook than otherwise possible.

 

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But don't bad mouth or make false statements about asymmetrical equipment, cause if Lane 1 made them you probably wouldn't have mentioned them.
 

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Hopefully, by this point you understand I didn't make any false statements. The comment about Lane#1 wasn't necessary. It has nothing to do with an asym discussion.

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You are like many people you think that anyone that uses asymmetrical equipment is looking for the hockey stick reaction. In many cases this is not true. At times people will lay an asymmetrical ball out for a controlled reaction I am one of them.

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I understand that some bowlers sometimes lay out asymmetric for a controlled reaction -- I'm one of them. But in many cases a bowler lay them out for max hook. Just understand that it goes both ways.

As you get more experience and use different types of equipment in different environments, these concepts will make more sense to you. Good luck on that journey.
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