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Nicanor

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Anyone else loosing reaction with the G-Force quickly??
« on: March 05, 2007, 07:16:25 AM »
I've been bowling with the G-Force for the last couple of weeks (pin above the ring Cg along side the thumb) and the ball loses reaction extremely quick.  I cleaned the ball with grey scotch brite pad and Hook-It and it starts out reading the lane well, but within a game the ball lost a ton of reaction.  I tried moving right into fresh oil thinking the heads were fading but the ball didn't recover at all.  I went further right to see if there was carry down and the reaction still sucked.

Anyone else having this problem??


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Re: Anyone else loosing reaction with the G-Force quickly??
« Reply #1 on: March 05, 2007, 03:40:19 PM »
not me, I just do the normal cleaning after each night and can't say the ball reaction is changing

though you realize with this type of ball, you have to keep it cleaned all the time and if the oil on the lane is not enough, the ball will just die so quick
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Re: Anyone else loosing reaction with the G-Force quickly??
« Reply #2 on: March 05, 2007, 04:18:56 PM »

The guy at Lane1 Forum mentioned this also
after around 19 games - gave it a bath and it's good to go ...

apparently, it sucks oil fast ...
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Re: Anyone else loosing reaction with the G-Force quickly??
« Reply #3 on: March 05, 2007, 04:21:01 PM »
I understand the keeping the ball clean and I cleaned it before going to league.  Th ball starting losing reaction during shadow and by the middle of the first game I had to change bowling balls.  I went to a Solid Uranium.

I also understand about how the heads could dry up quickly causing the ball to use its energy too quickly.  So I moved in a little deeper and the ball didn't recover at all.  This is a single person team and not a normal 4 or 5 person team.


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Re: Anyone else loosing reaction with the G-Force quickly??
« Reply #4 on: March 05, 2007, 04:25:19 PM »
That's not good news at all. About how many games do you have on the ball total?
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Re: Anyone else loosing reaction with the G-Force quickly??
« Reply #5 on: March 05, 2007, 04:54:42 PM »
could it just be that your lanes do not have enough oil..i polished my ball and its makes a huge difference with med oiled lanes that dry out...my friend did the same when the lanes broke down, and having applied a quick polish, produced a 725 series!
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Re: Anyone else loosing reaction with the G-Force quickly??
« Reply #6 on: March 05, 2007, 04:59:25 PM »
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could it just be that your lanes do not have enough oil..i polished my ball and its makes a huge difference with med oiled lanes that dry out...my friend did the same when the lanes broke down, and having applied a quick polish, produced a 725 series!
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Scottie, I wanted to keep mine dull to play inside line & in more oil, which so far has worked out well for me. How much less hook power did you notice after polishing. If they do suck oil that fast, I may have to polish mine to slow down the absorption a bit. If I polish mine, I'll have to find drier boards a little earlier, right?
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Re: Anyone else loosing reaction with the G-Force quickly??
« Reply #7 on: March 05, 2007, 05:12:20 PM »
I hope Nicanor is on base with his observations. Posts like this will make bowlers avoid the ball like a plague. That won't be fair if the cause is something totally unrelated.
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Re: Anyone else loosing reaction with the G-Force quickly??
« Reply #8 on: March 05, 2007, 05:36:05 PM »
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I hope Nicanor is on base with his observations. Posts like this will make bowlers avoid the ball like a plague. That won't be fair if the cause is something totally unrelated.
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I hope they don't die at all. I have read 2 or 3 reports of such, but I'm hoping the reports are flawed. I have only 12 games on mine, but in the oil, & have noticed no loss of reaction. Reading this does have me worried however.
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Re: Anyone else loosing reaction with the G-Force quickly??
« Reply #9 on: March 05, 2007, 07:18:03 PM »
I only have 8 games on mine.
It is still working just fine.
I clean all of my equipment within 30 minutes after each use.
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Re: Anyone else loosing reaction with the G-Force quickly??
« Reply #10 on: March 05, 2007, 07:50:12 PM »
Polished the G-Force with the pin above the ring finger.  I am not trying to start a TEC Death syndrome post and all I throw is Lane 1, so its not a bash Lane 1 post.  I average only 208, 211 and 212 in three different leagues so I'm not the resident 22o or better bowler.  I can however watch ball reactions and see how the ball reacts over time and through different conditions.  I bought a drilled a second G-Force to try and be fair.  I bought one from Kidace and one From Triggerman.  I have two Solid Uraniums and they did not suck up so much oil so fast that the ball was useless in oil.  To be fair I cleaned the bowling balls before league and they do start out with great reaction, but the G-Forces die so quickly that I change to the Solid Uraniums.  I play down and in and when the G-Force starts to fade I move in to where other bowlers have no played yet to get in the oil.  did not help.  Just for the hell of it, I threw my Black Rasperry and it hooked off the chart (sanded with wet 600 and spun with grey scotch brite pad.  Moved in with the ball to make sure there was oil in the middle and there was.  I know the Powerkoil 18 might react more when the ball hits the dry, but it still doesn't account for how the G-Forces faded quickly.

Now on another note, last Tuesday I shot an 684 with the G-Force.  The one with the pin above the ring finger.  I was palying a swing standing on 22 out to about 9 and back to the pocket.  I had a great shot.  Others on my pair where going coast to coast with the plastic spare ball.

Just going to keep the G-Force clean all the time.


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Re: Anyone else loosing reaction with the G-Force quickly??
« Reply #11 on: March 05, 2007, 07:56:13 PM »
Thanks for the feedback. I don't think anyone was questioning your lane experience BTW. I guess I'll just have to watch mine closely & hope for the best.
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Re: Anyone else loosing reaction with the G-Force quickly??
« Reply #12 on: March 05, 2007, 08:00:29 PM »
I find it interesting how loss of ball reaction has swung from blaming the manufacturer to blaming the consumer.
If your ball dies it must be after years of bowling you no longer know how to read a lane or care for a ball.
What a crock.
Nicanor has owned many balls and bowled on many different conditions.I'm positive he knows how to clean a ball.This may just be a case of the ball being new and this question is premature.
I,for one,know if my equipment dies within a short amount of time I will not be to blame.After forty + years I will know coverstock flameout when I see it.
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Re: Anyone else loosing reaction with the G-Force quickly??
« Reply #13 on: March 05, 2007, 08:52:33 PM »
I hope that th problem I am having is with the lane conditioner they seemed to change to at one of my bowling centers.  It seemed in past that the oil didn't move as quickly as it does now.  That was the reason I gbought the two G-Forces.  When I first started throwing the first G-Force, I was killing the shot, then it faded.  I bought the second one and drilled it to read the lane earlier and it does.  I threw the second G-Force in practice today and I could see the ball starting to fsde but still stronger then my first G-Force.  I know I had oil because I tried to throw a polished Solid Uranium and a polished H2O.  The H2O didn't move as far as I thought because I thought the lanes were drying up and the polished H2O would give me a strong back end reaction.  The house I practices at was not the same house I shot league at.  I was also throwing the Enriched Uranium and it was long and strong.

I am filling a Black Cherry and will drill it about 3 3/8 and kick the CG out toward the VAL to help the ball get into an earlier roll.  I have no complaints about the carry with the G-Force when I can find a shot, its just that the ball went from an oil monster to a medium oil ball very quickly and there has to be a dry spot to bounce off ot or the G-Force sails.

I have bowled with the likes of Pchee2 and others that could hook a marble and have it go coast to coast, so I know there are bowlers out there that wil have great success with the G-Force.

I just want to know if others are having the same problems/success with the G-Force that I am having.


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Re: Anyone else loosing reaction with the G-Force quickly??
« Reply #14 on: March 05, 2007, 09:13:17 PM »
well mine i think hooks more every day...i have just ordered another one .... this ball its awes0ome .....yes its an sponge absorb everything on the lane Dirty grimme oil everything...but mine isnt loosing reaction...by the way its hooking more..
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