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Storm269

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What is the Lane#1 ball's RG
« on: June 11, 2008, 05:00:27 PM »
In the website, 2 RGs are given for the Buzzbomb; min 2.501 and max 2.555. So which RG should we consider as the RG for the ball ?
Other brands like Storm, Ebonite and Hammer only provide one RG number for a ball.
Please advice....please.
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Re: What is the Lane#1 ball's RG
« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2008, 09:16:50 AM »
Most companies quote the minimum RG as the ball's "RG value".  You can get the max RG by adding the RG diff.

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Re: What is the Lane#1 ball's RG
« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2008, 11:21:21 AM »
That is exactly correct. The min RG value and the max RG value are what the differential comes from.

The difference between the 2 numbers creates the diff. number.

The higher the diff the stronger the core torque. The smaller the diff. the less core torque you get.

Hope this helps.  beans
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Re: What is the Lane#1 ball's RG
« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2008, 11:42:39 AM »
If you need to "think" about the ball, the average RG gives you a better feel for the ball. AFter all, how many people will drill the Buzzbomb with the pin on their PAP, so they can use the minimum? Just as many as will place the pin 6 3/4" from their PAP, so they can use the Maximum. So take the average and think about the ball that way. 2.53 is an easy number.
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Re: What is the Lane#1 ball's RG
« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2008, 11:55:42 AM »
Well said Charlest.

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Re: What is the Lane#1 ball's RG
« Reply #5 on: June 12, 2008, 12:40:14 PM »
Thank you, Sir.

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Re: What is the Lane#1 ball's RG
« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2008, 01:06:01 PM »
charlest,

It depends on if he likes getting fried to a crisp and blown away. We have been in the 90's for awhile and high winds almost every day for a couple of weeks. But it is sunny.

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Re: What is the Lane#1 ball's RG
« Reply #7 on: June 12, 2008, 03:08:19 PM »
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charlest,

It depends on if he likes getting fried to a crisp and blown away. We have been in the 90's for awhile and high winds almost every day for a couple of weeks. But it is sunny.

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Lucky you!
Here in central NJ we've been in the 90s for a low, mostly 98 - 102 with EQUIVALENT HUMIDITY - 75% or so. (And I'mtalkign all those cool places where they stick the thermometer I'm talking real life. I'd love to be in dry-ish Albuquerque right now. Heck, even my desert loving Habanero plants need watering 2x a day!!

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Re: What is the Lane#1 ball's RG
« Reply #8 on: June 12, 2008, 06:26:34 PM »
Thanks for the info guys...at least now when I want to compare the RG of two diferent balls I know which RG to select.
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Re: What is the Lane#1 ball's RG
« Reply #9 on: June 12, 2008, 06:31:47 PM »
quote:
Thanks for the info guys...at least now when I want to compare the RG of two diferent balls I know which RG to select.
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Again, you cannot and should not base ANY ball buying decision on the RG of any ball. If I had know this was why you were asking the question, I would NEVER have answered. The RG has AND SHOULD HAVE nothing to do with your ball buying decision. It is the coverstock/core interaction and match up that SOHULD be the sole driving force of a buying decision.

If you use only the RG as even one factor, in your buying decision, you should just giveaway all your balls and use a house ball. PERIOD!

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Re: What is the Lane#1 ball's RG
« Reply #10 on: June 12, 2008, 08:30:32 PM »
To be honest with you, the RG is one of the factors in the considersation before I buy any ball. But why you said tht we should not take the RG into considersation in buying a ball ? Then what is the purpose of the manufacturer telling bowler this is a low RG ball and so and so ? And if it is not important , then why do they want to control the max and min RG ? Now I am really confused....
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Re: What is the Lane#1 ball's RG
« Reply #11 on: June 12, 2008, 10:43:47 PM »
I think what charlest is getting at is there are far too many people who look at the RG #'s and say "I want a ball to roll super early so I need to get the lowest RG I can find" and that's how they buy the ball. That's NOT how to select a ball any more than choosing one based on the color alone.

Now if you have 2 solid resins you are considering for an oil ball and you are more of a stroker, then you may want to look at the ball with the higher of the 2 RG's. If you are a cranker type you may want to consider the ball with the lower RG.

Am I close ct???
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Re: What is the Lane#1 ball's RG
« Reply #12 on: June 13, 2008, 07:03:35 AM »
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That's NOT how to select a ball any more than choosing one based on the color alone.
What's wrong with buying a ball based on the color alone..? I like my balls to look pretty..!! =:^D
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Re: What is the Lane#1 ball's RG
« Reply #13 on: June 13, 2008, 08:11:53 AM »
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To be honest with you, the RG is one of the factors in the considersation before I buy any ball. But why you said tht we should not take the RG into considersation in buying a ball ? Then what is the purpose of the manufacturer telling bowler this is a low RG ball and so and so ? And if it is not important , then why do they want to control the max and min RG ? Now I am really confused....
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Doug has the story right.
DC38, didn't you read my reply? Ball = coverstock + core. Why do they give core specs? It's information about the ball. Why shouldn't they?
If you had 2 balls with the same coverstock and different cores, then the RG COULD come into play. I believe you should look at the ball, not its component parts. Look at the designed in ball reaction, look at the reviews. Use that information. Not SOLELY the name of the coverstock, not SOLELY the shape of the core, not SOLELY the flare potential, etc.. Look at the whole ball.

In fact, do not even think, Ball = coverstock + core. Think BALL = a big black circle with no information inside that black bubble at all. All you see is the outside. You can play with the outside surface all you want let your driller play with the "inside".
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Re: What is the Lane#1 ball's RG
« Reply #14 on: June 19, 2008, 07:59:59 AM »
I am with the "overall package" idea when you buy a ball. It is the combination of several factors that make the ball work, just liek a car. You need a motor (the core with its RG and differential, even a mass bias), tires (the coverstock, plus surface prep) and a driver to get things done. Even the street has influence on the preformance, and it is not easy to tell which package will be optimal.

In fact, it makes IMO most sense to check what ball reaction you need, and on which condition. Then, with some feeling for coverstocks and what RG numbers can do for you reaction-wise with a proper setup, you can choose a ball and a setup that matches these needs - and with so mmany choices, this is not an easy job!
 
At least, that's IMHO the cerebral approach. Sure, you can select a ball by its color (or fragrance), but I am sure that this will not yield optimal results, as well as just looking at RG numbers or coverstock names.
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