Author Topic: Ball drillers, please help (Read 953 times)

AK47 · « **on:** February 02, 2009, 03:30:16 AM »

please explain to me the difference of pin to pap and cg to pap placement.
What happens ......
1) When i place the pin closer to pap and the cg farther away?
2) When i place the CG closer to my pap and the Pin farther away?
3) 4" pin, CG @ fingers, slightly out to right of the ring finger, and the pin directly above (stacked)

thanks.
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Doug Sterner · « **Reply #1 on:** February 02, 2009, 08:55:59 PM »

I'll give it a shot.....

1) When i place the pin closer to pap and the cg farther away?
Normally this is a basic label shift type drilling. If the pin is closer to the PAP that the max leverage position (3-3/8") then the ball will get great length but kind of lay off on the backend. When the pin is further than 3-3/8" from the PAP it leads to a very angular reaction with good length down lane.

2) When i place the CG closer to my pap and the Pin farther away?
Typically called a cg out layout, this layout will get the ball into a roll sooner and will smooth out the transition from the skid to hook phase of the ball motion

3) 4" pin, CG @ fingers, slightly out to right of the ring finger, and the pin directly above (stacked)
Will normally produce the most flare and hook (or close to it) for a given ball. It will start up earlier like the cg out drill but have the angular backend like the label drill.

The degree to which the different layout will affect ball reaction is affected by how close or far away the pin is from the PAP. However the surface has a much more significant effect...combine the 2 factors and you can dial in any ball to make it do what you want...within reason of course.
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Edited on 2/3/2009 10:58 PM

AK47 · « **Reply #2 on:** February 03, 2009, 08:57:32 AM »

Thanks Doug! just wondering how i was going to drill my dynamo

I just needed to be sure about #3, my silver diamond has 4-5" pin and it's stacked with cg @ fingers and this ball moves out like #2 pin under cg out, but the backend is absolutely amazing and gets very angular as the oil dries.
also, i didn't know i could get that angularity with #1 when the pin is further away than 3-3/8, thanks!
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Uranium pearl
Buzzsaw THS
Buzzbomb/R
cobalt pearl

Doug Sterner · « **Reply #3 on:** February 03, 2009, 10:03:16 PM »

Just threw my Dynamo tonight and I have to say I am impressed. My layout is close to a 4x3 with x hole at 6-3/4" dead right on my midline.

In my hurry to ge tthe thumbhole done I botched it up and have to reslug the ball but I thrtew it tonight anyway.

This ball is a horse of another color. It definitely outhooks my BuzzBomb (5x4 pin over, 800 grit with polish no x hole) and my Agent Orange (5-1/2 x 4 pin over, 2000 grit, no x hole)

I am getting nearly 5" of flare (a rarity for me)and the back side of teh flare is actually right at the edge of my weighthole.

The hit of the Dynamo is different than traditional Lane 1 but the carry is typical Buzzsaw. It hits hard and carries some really odd crap.

More to follow....
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