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Title: Bleeder reactive.....??
Post by: LuckyLefty on August 26, 2008, 08:33:32 AM
I think I've asked this question before!  Can't remember the answer!

I remember the Yellow Dot bleeder plastic.....it was still bleedin a lot in my Florida garage and still hooking at my then 11 mph speed until about 1999!  But then.....it BLED to death in my 135 degree Florida garage!  Stopped hooking and I bought that bad boy Blue pearl Pulse(I heard it could shoot 900s!).  That thing hooked so much at 12 mph I thought it was crazy!!

Now I see this bleeder reactive!  What's that mean??

REgards,

Luckylefty


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Edited on 8/26/2008 4:33 PM
Title: Re: Bleeder reactive.....??
Post by: charlest on August 26, 2008, 05:24:29 PM
I think that's Lane#1's lingo for Columbia's/BASF's old Super-Flex resin formula, but no guarantees.
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Title: Re: Bleeder reactive.....??
Post by: LuckyLefty on August 28, 2008, 03:59:50 PM
But what about the "Bleedin" part??

Lane1ers????

REgards,

Luckylefty
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Title: Re: Bleeder reactive.....??
Post by: charlest on August 28, 2008, 04:17:39 PM
quote:
But what about the "Bleedin" part??

Lane1ers????

REgards,

Luckylefty
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what about it? WHat are you trying to say?
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Title: Re: Bleeder reactive.....??
Post by: LuckyLefty on August 28, 2008, 04:33:31 PM
I've had superflex....and it never bled!  Not like my old used 1 year Yellow DOT bleeder....that then bled for 14 years in a Florida garage....then I would wipe and bowl once about every two years!  It kept bleedin and hookin then one day it wouldn't hook....

Does superflex bleed?

If not me thinks a different formulation.....but...I've never seen THIS bleeder and don't know....

REgards,

luckylefty
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Edited on 8/28/2008 4:33 PM
Title: Re: Bleeder reactive.....??
Post by: Urethane Game on August 28, 2008, 04:35:43 PM
I think the reference is to the color of the ball which resembles the Scarlet Yellow Dot.
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Title: Re: Bleeder reactive.....??
Post by: solid9 on August 28, 2008, 05:42:04 PM

 What made the bleeder break as much as it did was the durometer, I had some in the shop that had a reading 0f 53 on a Shor gauge. The bleeding was caused by uncured plastisiser.(spelling)
Title: Re: Bleeder reactive.....??
Post by: charlest on August 28, 2008, 06:49:39 PM
LL,

"Bleeder" is just a name they dreamt up. It does not describe the coverstock at all. I think the closest thing may be that the first ball they used the name on was also a deep red.

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Title: Re: Bleeder reactive.....??
Post by: TWOHAND834 on August 28, 2008, 07:05:57 PM
Charlest is correct.  It is just a name.  A Superflex coverstock is not going to "flex"  literally.  Dont read into it there LL.
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Title: Re: Bleeder reactive.....??
Post by: solid9 on August 28, 2008, 09:35:53 PM
The term " Bleeder ", came from the oozing of resin out of the cover, some of these balls left in a car trunk, would actually look like they were bleeding. Since the balls were a burgundy color the nick name " Bleeder "
 I have one that looks like a goose egg, they were so soft, that if left in a room where the temperature was over 75 degree they would lose there shape.

Edited on 8/28/2008 9:36 PM
Title: Re: Bleeder reactive.....??
Post by: charlest on August 28, 2008, 10:19:07 PM
quote:
The term " Bleeder ", came from the oozing of resin out of the cover, some of these balls left in a car trunk, would actually look like they were bleeding. Since the balls were a burgundy color the nick name " Bleeder "
 I have one that looks like a goose egg, they were so soft, that if left in a room where the temperature was over 75 degree they would lose there shape.


Fred,

That was the Yellow Dot Bleeder. "Bleeder" was a name we bowlers came up with for it, for exactly the reason you described.

When I told LL it was name Lane#1 dreamt up, I meant for the coverstock name of a Super-Flex ball they marketed.
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Title: Re: Bleeder reactive.....??
Post by: solid9 on August 29, 2008, 04:21:19 AM

 Superflex is a cover stock that has earned the right to be called just what it is," Superflex," not some marketing jargon that will fool the public.
Title: Re: Bleeder reactive.....??
Post by: triggerman on August 29, 2008, 08:23:14 AM
this was called bleeder for the way it would "bleed off energy"  just a name put on it
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Title: Re: Bleeder reactive.....??
Post by: LuckyLefty on August 29, 2008, 09:26:57 AM
Hmmmm, I (me, moi)think it's superflex(not)?  Somebody is not reading the posts.

I have no idea what it is....I'm asking.  I'm just stating my old yellow dot bled.  It hooked more than my white dot which I used for spares.  Bleeder reactive?  What is it? My question.

REgards,

Luckylefty

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Title: Re: Bleeder reactive.....??
Post by: LuckyLefty on August 29, 2008, 09:42:20 AM
AND it bleeds?

REgards,

Luckylefty
PS none of my superflex balls....bled!
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Title: Re: Bleeder reactive.....??
Post by: triggerman on August 29, 2008, 10:15:55 AM
it is a superflex based cover (columbia et al had 3 or 4 versions of superflex)  it is a BASF formulation.  Lane #1 calls it bleeder because of the way the ball delays and slowly bleeds off its energy saving it for the back end.  Strictly a marketing deal IE much like their radioactive stock, fusion 105 stock yada yada yada

This ball (evolution) does not bleed color
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Title: Re: Bleeder reactive.....??
Post by: charlest on August 29, 2008, 11:08:13 AM
quote:
AND it bleeds?

REgards,

Luckylefty
PS none of my superflex balls....bled!
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Have you ever seen a Super-Flex coverstock "bleed"????
FYI probably about 90% of your (and my) beloved AMF coverstocks are some form of Super-Flex.
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