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JessN16

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Bought a Starburst XXXL. After throwing it...
« on: January 07, 2009, 04:48:40 PM »
I have to wonder why more companies don't take one of their nicer cores and wrap it in plastic.

How much harder could it be, say, for Storm to take the FE2 core out of the Thunder series -- which they've been making now for almost 20 years -- and put it in the Ice Storm rather than just a pancake block?

I bought a NIB XXXL Starburst off Triggerman last month and drilled it, and had just been using it for spares until this week, when the combination of warm weather, everyone else on my pair using aggressive reactive stuff, the lane guy not compensating for the weather change and the pair we were on having a history of being harder-hooking than most made me have to go to the XXXL in our third game.

What a difference in carry this thing has over most plastic. I guess it might have to do with the more center-heavy core or the RG numbers, but I think if I'd gotten lined up with this ball in the first game I could have scored from the outset.

Other companies are kind of missing the boat by not doing the same with their equipment if you ask me. For people who see dry lanes a lot, I think they give up 10 pins a game if they don't have something like this in their bag. If I were to combine this ball with my Visionary Slate Blue Gargoyle, I could create a pretty mean dry-lane arsenal. With lane oil becoming more scarce everywhere I've bowled, I might have to consider doing just that.

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Re: Bought a Starburst XXXL. After throwing it...
« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2009, 02:14:46 AM »
The charm of a true core is the abilty of the ball to get into a roll, thus reducing the "splattering" effect of pancake pieces. On true dry lanes, this is a real edge compared to simple pancake polyester balls - the powerful finish.
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Re: Bought a Starburst XXXL. After throwing it...
« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2009, 06:36:41 AM »
best plastic on the market period

Glad it works well Jess, I have 3 more 15# balls in stock if anyone is interested
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Re: Bought a Starburst XXXL. After throwing it...
« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2009, 06:38:50 AM »
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I have to wonder why more companies don't take one of their nicer cores and wrap it in plastic.
Extremely limited demand.  Even weaker resin balls are hard to find these days because the general market wants hook monsters and that's it.  Only your higher-level bowlers in general see the need in having weak equipment for drier lane conditions.

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Re: Bought a Starburst XXXL. After throwing it...
« Reply #4 on: January 08, 2009, 03:51:38 PM »
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I have to wonder why more companies don't take one of their nicer cores and wrap it in plastic.
Extremely limited demand.  Even weaker resin balls are hard to find these days because the general market wants hook monsters and that's it.  Only your higher-level bowlers in general see the need in having weak equipment for drier lane conditions.


I understand your point, but I've traveled around a good amount and have found most of the people I talk to all say the same thing, they want equipment to start getting geared weaker, not stronger, with all the strong equipment we kill a shot so quick and many places don't put out the heavy oil need for the latest and greatest hook monster. I'm just assuming though the sales demand still shows the high end as the biggest sellers, its just disappointing that I'm happy to be able to use my Hy-Road because that means I found some oil.
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Re: Bought a Starburst XXXL. After throwing it...
« Reply #5 on: January 08, 2009, 04:02:50 PM »
My next purchase will probably be a Chainsaw or a Roto Grip Neptune. I'm having to drill everything at least 4.5-by these days, and even my 5-by stuff is too strong on many nights.

That's one reason I've never understood the hysteria about controlling scores. You can do it very easily -- quit oiling the lanes (or quit oiling them as much, at least). One of the reasons my team was successful last night is that three of the four people on the other team were all trying to throw leverage-drilled Black Widow Pearls. The top series on their team came from the one guy (and only pure stroker) throwing a Zone Classic. I was high on our side, and I *started* the night with a Uranium HRG, then switched to an old Ebonite Matrix Conquest drilled 5.5-by with the MB in a neutral position. Even it was moving too much in the third game -- and the Matrix Conquest was a tame ball even when it was released.

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Re: Bought a Starburst XXXL. After throwing it...
« Reply #6 on: January 08, 2009, 04:07:55 PM »
my chainsaw/lib combo took over the need for my XXXL.....
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Re: Bought a Starburst XXXL. After throwing it...
« Reply #7 on: January 08, 2009, 04:07:56 PM »
my chainsaw/lib combo took over the need for my XXXL.....
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Re: Bought a Starburst XXXL. After throwing it...
« Reply #8 on: January 08, 2009, 04:20:59 PM »

. . . you can say that again :0
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JessN16

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Re: Bought a Starburst XXXL. After throwing it...
« Reply #9 on: January 08, 2009, 04:25:06 PM »
quote:
my chainsaw/lib combo took over the need for my XXXL.....
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Ten pin?????? Where?? I throw a BUZZSAW there is NUTTIN left on the deck...

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I'm tempted to try the Liberator, but I already have a Visionary Red Sorcerer and despite it being a polished urethane solid, it still moves too early when the shot is really dry. Considering how dull-surfaced the Liberator looks to be, I can imagine having the same problem. Heck, the reason I went to the XXXL is sometimes even my Slate Blue Gargoyle, which is urethane pearl, reads too soon.

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Re: Bought a Starburst XXXL. After throwing it...
« Reply #10 on: January 08, 2009, 04:58:32 PM »
my Chainsaw is weaker than the liberator.....
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Re: Bought a Starburst XXXL. After throwing it...
« Reply #11 on: January 08, 2009, 08:14:09 PM »
ya THINK so??????
 
OK then my LIBERATOR is SMOOTHER than my chainsaw....
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Re: Bought a Starburst XXXL. After throwing it...
« Reply #12 on: January 08, 2009, 08:48:40 PM »
The xxxl is a wonderful piece as is the Purple Sumo. I however cant play straight even with the xxl and the purple sumo is a medium oil ball for me if I keep it away from the dry touch dry and it will hook until its off the lane.

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Re: Bought a Starburst XXXL. After throwing it...
« Reply #13 on: January 09, 2009, 08:27:24 AM »
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The xxxl is a wonderful piece as is the Purple Sumo. I however cant play straight even with the xxl and the purple sumo is a medium oil ball for me if I keep it away from the dry touch dry and it will hook until its off the lane.



didnt that ball come at 220 grit ?   if so and it still is at 220 grit of course its gonna hook lol
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JessN16

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Re: Bought a Starburst XXXL. After throwing it...
« Reply #14 on: January 09, 2009, 01:56:18 PM »
I had a Purple Sumo at one time. Granted, I threw the ball a lot differently than I do now but I could never get it to work for me. It read too early to be useful on true dry, and was an automatic 10-pin leaver on top of that.

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