Post by: JessN16 on January 07, 2009, 04:48:40 PM
How much harder could it be, say, for Storm to take the FE2 core out of the Thunder series -- which they've been making now for almost 20 years -- and put it in the Ice Storm rather than just a pancake block?
I bought a NIB XXXL Starburst off Triggerman last month and drilled it, and had just been using it for spares until this week, when the combination of warm weather, everyone else on my pair using aggressive reactive stuff, the lane guy not compensating for the weather change and the pair we were on having a history of being harder-hooking than most made me have to go to the XXXL in our third game.
What a difference in carry this thing has over most plastic. I guess it might have to do with the more center-heavy core or the RG numbers, but I think if I'd gotten lined up with this ball in the first game I could have scored from the outset.
Other companies are kind of missing the boat by not doing the same with their equipment if you ask me. For people who see dry lanes a lot, I think they give up 10 pins a game if they don't have something like this in their bag. If I were to combine this ball with my Visionary Slate Blue Gargoyle, I could create a pretty mean dry-lane arsenal. With lane oil becoming more scarce everywhere I've bowled, I might have to consider doing just that.
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Post by: triggerman on January 08, 2009, 06:36:41 AM
Glad it works well Jess, I have 3 more 15# balls in stock if anyone is interested
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Post by: Dan Belcher on January 08, 2009, 06:38:50 AM
quote:Extremely limited demand. Even weaker resin balls are hard to find these days because the general market wants hook monsters and that's it. Only your higher-level bowlers in general see the need in having weak equipment for drier lane conditions.
I have to wonder why more companies don't take one of their nicer cores and wrap it in plastic.
Post by: themagician on January 08, 2009, 03:51:38 PM
quote:quote:Extremely limited demand. Even weaker resin balls are hard to find these days because the general market wants hook monsters and that's it. Only your higher-level bowlers in general see the need in having weak equipment for drier lane conditions.
I have to wonder why more companies don't take one of their nicer cores and wrap it in plastic.
I understand your point, but I've traveled around a good amount and have found most of the people I talk to all say the same thing, they want equipment to start getting geared weaker, not stronger, with all the strong equipment we kill a shot so quick and many places don't put out the heavy oil need for the latest and greatest hook monster. I'm just assuming though the sales demand still shows the high end as the biggest sellers, its just disappointing that I'm happy to be able to use my Hy-Road because that means I found some oil.
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Post by: JessN16 on January 08, 2009, 04:02:50 PM
That's one reason I've never understood the hysteria about controlling scores. You can do it very easily -- quit oiling the lanes (or quit oiling them as much, at least). One of the reasons my team was successful last night is that three of the four people on the other team were all trying to throw leverage-drilled Black Widow Pearls. The top series on their team came from the one guy (and only pure stroker) throwing a Zone Classic. I was high on our side, and I *started* the night with a Uranium HRG, then switched to an old Ebonite Matrix Conquest drilled 5.5-by with the MB in a neutral position. Even it was moving too much in the third game -- and the Matrix Conquest was a tame ball even when it was released.
Jess
Post by: Buzzhead on January 08, 2009, 04:07:55 PM
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Post by: Buzzhead on January 08, 2009, 04:07:56 PM
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Post by: Roy Munson on January 08, 2009, 04:20:59 PM
. . . you can say that again :0
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Post by: JessN16 on January 08, 2009, 04:25:06 PM
quote:
my chainsaw/lib combo took over the need for my XXXL.....
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I'm tempted to try the Liberator, but I already have a Visionary Red Sorcerer and despite it being a polished urethane solid, it still moves too early when the shot is really dry. Considering how dull-surfaced the Liberator looks to be, I can imagine having the same problem. Heck, the reason I went to the XXXL is sometimes even my Slate Blue Gargoyle, which is urethane pearl, reads too soon.
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Post by: Buzzhead on January 08, 2009, 04:58:32 PM
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Post by: Buzzhead on January 08, 2009, 08:14:09 PM
OK then my LIBERATOR is SMOOTHER than my chainsaw....
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Post by: KingofKings696 on January 08, 2009, 08:48:40 PM
Post by: jbuzz31 on January 09, 2009, 08:27:24 AM
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The xxxl is a wonderful piece as is the Purple Sumo. I however cant play straight even with the xxl and the purple sumo is a medium oil ball for me if I keep it away from the dry touch dry and it will hook until its off the lane.
didnt that ball come at 220 grit ? if so and it still is at 220 grit of course its gonna hook lol
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Post by: JessN16 on January 09, 2009, 01:56:18 PM
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Post by: Playmaker on January 09, 2009, 02:36:14 PM
As stated above the XXXL is one great plastic ball, mine is drilled label. This ball carrys pins and is very controllable. The Chainsaw is one of the most controllable/Consistant balls I have ever thrown. Even compared to my XXL this ball reads the lanes with a consistant smooth roll. These two work great on carry down and dry lanes. Just my .02.
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Post by: KingofKings696 on January 10, 2009, 04:07:24 AM
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Post by: BeansProShop on January 10, 2009, 11:29:27 AM
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The xxxl is a wonderful piece as is the Purple Sumo. I however cant play straight even with the xxl and the purple sumo is a medium oil ball for me if I keep it away from the dry touch dry and it will hook until its off the lane.
The Purple Sumo was an amazing ball. That plastic shell was also very soft and really gripped the lane for plastic....
I would kill to have that poly cover on a XXXL...
I wonder if Phil could pour that ball or if it was imported back then. I guess Mo pinel would know.
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Post by: T_Bone on January 10, 2009, 11:52:40 AM
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I have the Red XXXL and love it....What does the Starburst XXXL do different than the Red XXXL?
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Post by: azus on January 10, 2009, 12:02:02 PM
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My next purchase will probably be a Chainsaw or a Roto Grip Neptune. I'm having to drill everything at least 4.5-by these days, and even my 5-by stuff is too strong on many nights.
That's one reason I've never understood the hysteria about controlling scores. You can do it very easily -- quit oiling the lanes (or quit oiling them as much, at least). One of the reasons my team was successful last night is that three of the four people on the other team were all trying to throw leverage-drilled Black Widow Pearls. The top series on their team came from the one guy (and only pure stroker) throwing a Zone Classic. I was high on our side, and I *started* the night with a Uranium HRG, then switched to an old Ebonite Matrix Conquest drilled 5.5-by with the MB in a neutral position. Even it was moving too much in the third game -- and the Matrix Conquest was a tame ball even when it was released.
Jess
You dont have to quit oiling the lanes to lower the scores. Just put out a more challenging shot than a THS.
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Post by: novawagonmaster on January 10, 2009, 03:41:13 PM
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I have the Red XXXL and love it....What does the Starburst XXXL do different than the Red XXXL?
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Post by: JessN16 on January 10, 2009, 03:52:48 PM
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Post by: RadioActive on January 13, 2009, 05:02:30 PM
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I have the Red XXXL and love it....What does the Starburst XXXL do different than the Red XXXL?
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Same ball, the Starburst just looks better going down the lane!
Also I guess my house has started putting out more oil. I had been in about an eight week slump, hadn't hit 600 in that long. Then I got an Agent Orange, took it to 4000 and polished it. Last two weeks 636 and 734. I love it! Use the Starburst for spares, the Chainsaw stays in the locker!
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Edited on 1/13/2009 6:06 PM