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Equipment Boards => Lane #1 => Topic started by: T-GOD on December 04, 2003, 07:37:15 AM
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Randy, it's nice to see Dan Bearden bowled his FIRST 800 Series using a Lane #1 Black Cherry Bomb. Now go tell your boss that Lane 1 stuff isn't worth the money..!! Ohhh...Dan is your boss..!!
Damm, the guy is 55 yrs old and bowled his first 800 series. I guess it was just a coincidence he bowled his first 800 set within about 2 months after using a Lane 1 ball..? Now keep telling everyone that Lane 1 balls aren't worth the money.
Working in a pro shop...$10.00 an hr.
Buying a Lane #1 ball...$250.00
Bowling your first 800 series...PRICELESS..!! =:^D
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#1, Dan makes much more than 10 dollars an hour, I assure you,it's randy or myself at that pay scale, so that line in your post makes no sense at all.
#2, Dan didnt pay ANYTHING for that black cherry bomb, which might I add is the only reason he threw it, as I was the one who laid it out for him, I think I would know.
#3, You still dont seem to get, our only point was that the balls were not worth the extra money paid for them, not that they cant shoot honor scores. If you honestly think that he's never been close to shooting an 800 series (probably even with a yellow dot) then you're crazy. Not alot of difference between a 790 something and 8-O-something. Lets not get carried away here. It's all about being able to matchup, and if you think Mr Bearden would've had no chance to possibly match up with something else, that my friend is just being plain ignorant of his capabilities. On a side note, the first 3 game series Dan bowled with his Black Cherry bomb was 467, but I'm sure you failed to know or mention that eh. He was never going to throw it again until it was suggested that he put a little more surface on it to smooth it out....but then, OH NO, that would mean that he tweaked the ball to MATCH UP...wow, that phrase just keeps coming up, you would think in your twenty years of experience you'd have gotten that stuck in your head somewhere, matching up is matching up, no matter what kind of ball it is.
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Edited on 12/5/2003 2:57 AM
Edited on 12/5/2003 2:58 AM
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Despite my past arguments AGAINST what I feel are overpriced balls, I have come to my own piece of mind that to each his own. I shot an 800 with a BlueDot...just a great matchup is all it was. Nice to see some of the other BowlersAidProShop guys being active in the forums. BTW, tell Dan I said "GRATS!"
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I am glad for the person that shot his 800 series . I did my first 800 with my Storm X Factor . I was in the zone that night . Just like he was in the zone.
People forget that it still take a body to the the ball down the lane. Correct speed, adjustment, rotation, the right ball for the lane condition.
Thank you
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Wells said:
"#2, Dan didnt pay ANYTHING for that black cherry bomb, which might I add is the only reason he threw it, as I was the one who laid it out for him, I think I would know."
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AHHH HAAA! - T-God, Wells wants the credit for Dan's 300. After all, he is the one that laid it out. lol 

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In the old days, they used axes to chop up wood...Nowadays, they use "BUZZSAWS".
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I would guess, by seeing the wink and smiley face, Brick was not being very serious. I did enjoy Melvins remark about the body throwing the ball. IMO, in the end, it doesnt really matter what you throw. It all comes down to the bowler executing the shot.
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CURLY-
"I SAID GOOD DAY.......!"
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Wells,
#1, I was referrig to Randy
#2, I wasn't suggesting he did pay for it. I was just stating the normal price of the ball.
#3, There's a BIG difference between 800 and 790+, just like there's a BIG difference between 300 and 290+.
Yes, it's all about matching up, as well as throwing the ball well. It's just funny that after all these years, along with hundreds of balls on the market, a Lane 1 ball is the one that matched up for him to score 800.
Jabroni, I'm just having fun with you guys. But, if you did pay $240.00 for your Beast, I'll bet you'd've thought it was worth it. If I was guaranteed an 800 series I'd fork over $250 every week..!! =:^D
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Randy, Curley is correct in what he said about me, the smiley face, wink, etc. I would say that Curley is grown up and mature since he doesn't jump to conclusions.


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In the old days, they used axes to chop up wood...Nowadays, they use "BUZZSAWS".
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1) Congrats on the 800 Dan... nice shooting
2) This whole issue can be compared to vehicles. You can choose (and many are content with) driving a hyundai... or you can drive a cadillac. Both will get you from point A to point B. The people driving the foreign crap are content because they didn't spend a ton of money and they get good milage. The people driving the cadillac's are content because they aren't driving hyundai's. Its all relative...can't we all just get along?
S^2
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Go Bengals! .500 season is a victory!
Edited on 12/5/2003 1:11 PM
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I would say that Curley is grown up and mature since he doesn't jump to conclusions. 

See, theres that wink and smiley face again! I mean , DOH!, whats he really saying. LOL!
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CURLY-
"I SAID GOOD DAY.......!"
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I have known Dan for almost 20 years. He drilled my first bowling ball when I was 10. I never knew up to this point that he had never shot 800. He has been a top notch bowler in Atlanta for years. To know that this is the 1st is actually a shock to me. To be honest, though, it really doesn't matter what he shot it with. Just the fact that he now has his ring is an accomplishment in itself. To say that Lane #1 carries better than other companies is just an opinion and only that. I have 15 800s with VARIOUS bowling balls. I have used a Panther on a couple occasions, a Gargoyle, a Triton Heat, just to name a few. My 1st 800 was with a Red Tour Boss. I just named Ebonite, Visionary, Track, and Columbia. BUT...it does not mean that one company can out carry another. Like Randy has preached for years now; it is all about matching up. I want to congratulate Dan for his accomplishment because I know the 1st is always the best and one he will savor for a long time.
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If anyone out there is worried about the scores being too high, try duckpin!!
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This whole issue can be compared to vehicles.
No it can't. In the vehicle example you are willingly paying the extra money for features, luxury, and quality. With bowling balls, you are paying the extra money for...well, just what are you paying the extra money for? Did your cherry bomb come with leather seats and a GPS system?
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This whole issue can be compared to vehicles.
No it can't. In the vehicle example you are willingly paying the extra money for features, luxury, and quality. With bowling balls, you are paying the extra money for...well, just what are you paying the extra money for? Did your cherry bomb come with leather seats and a GPS system?
Brand name, quality, and core design.
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Go Bengals! .500 season is a victory!
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ice`em,
Indeed you are right.....Dan did shoot his first 800 with a black cherry bomb, the whole point being made by myself and randy, albeit he may be a little more on the offense, is that Dan could have very well shot an 800 throwing a Vortex II....the fact that he was using a Lane #1 ball does look well for the ball, but doesnt make the ball the reason he shot 800, honestly, if you know much about the game that statement is just ludicrous. No one here is saying the Lane #1 balls suck, or arent worth a crap, it's just been said you're money may be better spent on say buying a mid-high performance ball and a spare ball vs one lane #1 ball that isnt going to give you any advantage, all of this my own opinion of course. But to say Dan only shot an 800 because he finally used a Lane 1 ball is just as ignorant as someone saying Lane 1 balls are pieces of junk...they are not junk, and he did not shoot an 800 based on the ball. k?
Edited on 12/7/2003 0:56 AM
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why do u not get it thru your head that you can buy buzzsaws for under 200 bucks????
what is your problem...get a bloody life and go away and throw your columbia's to your hearts content before somebody shoves one up yer arse...
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lol, scottie was that addressed to me? What does Columbia have to do with anything.... and the Lane #1 balls I was referring too were their high tech stuff, not the mid.....and I meant including drilling....no surprise though that you follow into this thread and once again show your class with your hostility.
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dear jabroni,
i invite you to take all of your negative posts to some other forum more suited to your IQ . . . like the yahoo message boards.
i haven't seen you post anything positive since you showed up . . . just stay away from the lane #1 posts if you're too stupid to fork over an extra $15 . . . or better yet, just stay away.
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That which does not kill me makes me stronger . . .
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Sheesh, I thought this topic had 'died' a week ago since the previous post was on the 7th?
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I just want 2C was'zzub.
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I have made plenty of positive posts in these forums by the way, they just aren't in the Lane 1 forum. There is nothing good to say about them. If they retailed at the same price points as other companies balls, then they would be great, but they don't so they are a gimmick.
gg and good day......
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How can you tell who you don't have to worry about at a scratch tournament...check their bag for buzzsaws....if they have them, one less person to beat.
i rest my case . . . nothing good to say about them, but they're great . . . and just because they MAY cost a little more, they're a gimmick. enjoy your bonanza balls, and congratulations if and when you bowl your first 140 . . .
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If they retailed at the same price points as other companies balls, then they would be great, but they don't so they are a gimmick.
That's about the stupidest comment I've ever heard. Man, do you squeek. I vote Jabroni/Randy for the "CHEAPEST Bowler" award..!!
So there you have it. Buzzsaw's are great, but they just cost too much. It's a gimmick to pay more for something that is great/better. And to think that this guy runs/works in a pro shop.
Like I said earlier, you're not a very good salesman..!! =:^D
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Roni, I'm not taking things out of context. You said the balls were great, but that they cost to much.
You need a lesson in business and/or in sales. That's why I say you're a bad salesman. Your job is too make money/make your boss money..!! That's the purpose of any business.
The key is to make people feel good about their purchase, not to save them money..!! You don't know how much money someone has, or what they think is too high of a price FOR THEM.
A good sales person hypes up the product they're selling, making the person feel good about how much they're spending on it. If the product is good and it delivers, it's an easy sell.
How would you feel selling yourself/your services..? Are you going to tell people you're great, but it doesn't cost much for your service..? Is that they way you want to sell yourself..?
Or, would you want to be the highest price..? There's nothing wrong with being the highest price, if you're the best. Now it's your job to convince people that you are the best. Your customers will pay your pirce if you're good.
That is the difference between a good sales man and you..!! Hopefully, you've learned something. =:^D
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jabberwocky . . . you're the one making the fool of yourself with your double-talk and ignorant statements. i could keep pointing them out ad infinitum, ad nauseam . . . but it's quite frankly become boring, and a waste of my time.
sorry to the other ballreviews members for inciting this madness.
good luck, rice-a-roni . . . you're gonna need it!
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That which does not kill me makes me stronger . . .
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Jabroni RELAX......
What is the big deal, if you don't like lane1? Let it go already.
Maybe you're angry cause lane1 balls did not work for you. I have been bowling for 20 years. Used every company out there. Let me tell you there is a big Diff Between lane1 and everyone else. Purchased a BCB, XXXL two weeks ago spent $325 for both, drilled. In my league since I switched over I've made $550 bucks. Next purchase CB. I'm very confident I'll get my money back. Balls that I now have on display(deuce,Blue Hammer, Vicious, everclear, money, ez-money,scout,cuda, cuda 2000). All of the mentioned balls were good, but they didn't quite measure up. It was like going from a Cadillac to Benz.
Good luck Jabroni hopefully you'll find something out there that makes you happy.
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Okay I had enough about this topic . I just want to know , if these balls suppose to be great, Do the Pros on the PBA use these balls . If any of the Pros out there please respond to this topic . Just PBA PRos Please . What the heck , I might buy on of these balls for a tournament .
Thank you
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OK Jabroni, Randy, whoever you are, since you don't post a profile, it's time to put up or shut up. I scanned ALL of the PBA southern region stats through 12/8. I found 6 Randy's. Weiss, Rose, Russell, Bourgeois, Shewmake and Whitehead. Which one are you? I have a vague recollection that the proshop that you work at is in Georgia, no? Please correct me if I'm wrong.
The only Randy from Georgia is Randy Russell. He cashed twice in 9 tournaments for a grand total of $420.
IF (and the rest of this applies only IF this is you) you're making $10 per hour in a proshop and have earned a WHOPPING $420 in the southern region, (in 9 events, so I'm sure your entry fees and travel expenses put you in the hole)
it's pretty easy to figure that you earn $20,800 per year. Assuming that you live relatively frugally; $600 rent, $150 utilities (phone,cable,electricity etc.), $150 gas and insurance (your car is owned outright), $150 food and, say, $200 miscellaneous (bowling leagues/tournaments and bubble gum) per month, your expenses total $1350 a month or $16,200 per year. Assuming that you pay taxes at a rate of say 6% due to your low income level you would have a disposable income of about $3000 a year, or $60 a week. At this level, I see white dots in your future.
From your posts it is obvious that you are intelligent, witty and pretty much a major wise-*ss. I'm not sure that you respect anyone's opinion but your own and NO, you DON'T know it all. You've expressed your opinion regarding Lane #1 ad nauseaum, it's time for you to spend more time in the other forums. There really is nothing else for you to say regarding this equipment, we all have been overexposed to your feelings. Unless, of course, all you're really looking for is an argument. And if that's the case you either need to get a life, or a girlfriend!
You can argue forever about pricing but it's not about that, that's what you miss. It's about satisfaction. A company called J.D. Power measures this for consumers of various products. Is price a part of this? Sure, it is. But is it merely a PART? Yes, customer satisfaction encompasses the entire purchasing and ownership experience. A consumer must be satisfied that they got good quality, good value and a good experience out of their purchase or they won't purchase from that company again.
You yourself admit that you've never had a Lane #1 product. It would be very difficult to enjoy/hate the experience without having tried it, regardless of price. And I would bet that most Lane #1 customers are repeat customers, for whatever reason, they enjoyed the experience.
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golfnut,
Why would you bring a mans salary into a post like that. What does his income have to do with anything, other than the fact that maybe he has other stuff to do with his money than blow it on lane 1 bowling balls.
Is it that you feel that you must be rich to deserve the privilege of throwing lane 1 balls? I usually agree with, and enjoy most of your posts, but your personal attack on Jabroni for the amount of money he makes per year was degrading, insulting, unneccesary, and you should be ashamed. You now remind me of a school bully, picking on people that you don't consider equal to yourself because they make less money.
I have worked physically for everything I have in this world. I go out everyday and dig ditches, lay block, pour concrete, etc. etc. Whatever I have to do make money and keep a roof over my families heads. Does that make me less of a man than you are because I can't go out and waste 250 bucks on a lane 1 bowling ball?
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