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Title: Brunswick 3.5 -vs- Curve
Post by: Big Jake on March 07, 2010, 06:01:28 AM
Hello Group
 For those that have thrown the Brunswick 3.5 and the new Curve how would they compare? I have the 3.5 and from what I have been reading here I'm very interested in the Curve or the Massacre Red Death. Thanks, Jake


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Title: Re: Brunswick 3.5 -vs- Curve
Post by: BeansProShop on March 07, 2010, 03:03:39 PM
Iw ould say the Curve is closer to the 2.5....The 3.5 will create much more friction than the Curve..

Saw the Curve today at a tourney roll really well for Bill Bauer..

I was throwing my Red Death and they both played...

The 3.5's were more jumpy..

It was supposed to be the 2010 USBC paatern..

Hope this helps a little..
Beans
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Title: Re: Brunswick 3.5 -vs- Curve
Post by: Big Jake on March 07, 2010, 03:25:20 PM
Thanks beans your comment really helped. Is the Red Death a hybrid cover? if so does that mean that its a solid and pearl?

the reason I ask is I'm looking for an aggressive solid and from what I have been reading in here it seems that the Red Death might fit the bill
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Title: Re: Brunswick 3.5 -vs- Curve
Post by: ImBackInTheGame on March 07, 2010, 03:56:52 PM
Red Death is a solid, Blue Death on the other hand is a true Pearl/Solid hybrid.
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Title: Re: Brunswick 3.5 -vs- Curve
Post by: BeansProShop on March 07, 2010, 04:31:24 PM
Game stated it perfect...

The Red Death is an aggressive solid reactive with a great angular core design..

The Red and Blue death are a great combo...

I absolutely LOVE my Blue Death and the Red really impressed me today on a decently difficult pattern..

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Title: Re: Brunswick 3.5 -vs- Curve
Post by: charlest on March 07, 2010, 06:01:03 PM
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Thanks beans your comment really helped. Is the Red Death a hybrid cover? if so does that mean that its a solid and pearl? ...
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I think Lane#1 calls the Red Death a "hybrid" for the propaganda/advertising effect. "Hybrid" seems to have become a positive connotation. The Red Death is actually a solid/solid hybrid, so in truth it is not truly what we think of, in bowling, when we speak of a hybrid. The same is true for the Gemstone, but it's a pearl/pearl hybrid. Technically, yes, they're hybrids. Practically speaking they are not.
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Title: Re: Brunswick 3.5 -vs- Curve
Post by: The Stroke on March 07, 2010, 06:19:39 PM
Isn't the Beans a hybrid - blowhard/ripoff artist?
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Title: Re: Brunswick 3.5 -vs- Curve
Post by: Big Jake on March 08, 2010, 08:25:57 AM
Thanks everyone!
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Title: Re: Brunswick 3.5 -vs- Curve
Post by: Adrenaline on March 10, 2010, 12:37:41 AM
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The Red Death is actually a solid/solid hybrid, so in truth it is not truly what we think of, in bowling, when we speak of a hybrid.

Then what kind of Hybrid is it?  I've got one in the mail, just curious, I just assumed it was a solid.  What do you mean by solid/solid hybrid?  It has 2 separate solid coverstocks blended into one?
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Title: Re: Brunswick 3.5 -vs- Curve
Post by: charlest on March 10, 2010, 06:32:47 AM
quote:
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The Red Death is actually a solid/solid hybrid, so in truth it is not truly what we think of, in bowling, when we speak of a hybrid.

Then what kind of Hybrid is it?  I've got one in the mail, just curious, I just assumed it was a solid.  What do you mean by solid/solid hybrid?  It has 2 separate solid coverstocks blended into one?
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Mega Friction 78x3x47 278
Virtual Gravity 47x4x40 272
Red Death
FS/FT N'Tense LevRG
FS/FT Twisted Fury
FS/FT The Sauce
FS/FT Jigsaw
FS/FT Black Widow Solid
FS/FT Kinetic Energy



Yes, as far as I have read.
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Title: Re: Brunswick 3.5 -vs- Curve
Post by: triggerman on March 10, 2010, 08:54:48 AM
that is exactly what it is two different versions of a solid reactive blended together, the gemstone is the same, two different pearl variations blended

Blue death a true hybrid, part solid part pearl
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Title: Re: Brunswick 3.5 -vs- Curve
Post by: BeansProShop on March 10, 2010, 06:24:13 PM
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Isn''t the Beans a hybrid - blowhard/ripoff artist?
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Dear Stroke,
No.. That would be your mother...She''s the blowhard...
Thanks
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Edited on 3/10/2010 7:26 PM
Title: Re: Brunswick 3.5 -vs- Curve
Post by: Adrenaline on March 11, 2010, 12:30:20 AM
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It is a solid.  You don't call a solid made up of two solids a hybrid.

But by definition it is a hybrid.
2 cover stocks combined to create one coverstock, is a hybrid.
Just because the 2 coverstocks aren't solid and pearl, doesn't mean it isn't still made up of 2 separate coverstocks.
Just because the word isn't being applied the way you've come to commonly expect, does not make it incorrect.

By definition, it's a hybrid.
As far as bowling knowledge goes, it's simply a new coverstock, that is in fact a solid.
Title: Re: Brunswick 3.5 -vs- Curve
Post by: Brickguy221 on March 11, 2010, 09:02:47 AM
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It is a solid. You don't call a solid made up of two solids a hybrid.
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But by definition it is a hybrid.
2 cover stocks combined to create one coverstock, is a hybrid.
Just because the 2 coverstocks aren't solid and pearl, doesn't mean it isn't still made up of 2 separate coverstocks.
Just because the word isn't being applied the way you've come to commonly expect, does not make it incorrect.

By definition, it's a hybrid.
As far as bowling knowledge goes, it's simply a new coverstock, that is in fact a solid.
 


+1....Adrenaline has it right.
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Title: Re: Brunswick 3.5 -vs- Curve
Post by: The Stroke on March 11, 2010, 09:03:36 AM
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It is a solid.  You don't call a solid made up of two solids a hybrid.

+2
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Title: Re: Brunswick 3.5 -vs- Curve
Post by: elgavachon on March 11, 2010, 09:20:29 AM
I think pearls are solids with mica particles added to the mix. A hybrid might be nothing more than a solid with a light load. Not enough to call it a pearl.
Title: Re: Brunswick 3.5 -vs- Curve
Post by: Adrenaline on March 12, 2010, 03:28:45 PM
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No, by your definition, almost every ball that has come out would be a hybrid.  Actually, the definition of the word hybrid would make every ball that has been made, a hybrid.  However, in the classical sense of the word in regards to bowling balls and the terminology that has been used to describe their basic makeup, I believe it would be incorrect to call this ball a hybrid.

It's not my definition, it's the dictionary's.
You can argue all you want, I already explained it.
By definition it is technically a hybrid.
By common bowling terms, it's not what we consider a Hybrid.
Title: Re: Brunswick 3.5 -vs- Curve
Post by: ryne299 on March 12, 2010, 10:37:47 PM
who gives a flyin f u c k what defenition of hybrid matters. holy s h i t i love this site but some people act like the exact people in bowling alleys i freakin hate. no offense to anyone on this post cause i see it everywhere but god d a m n people just want info here. this is not who wants to be a millionaire and measure each others c o c k s and see whos is bigger. man up and get over this s h i t guys. dont we get enough of this in the towns we bowl in
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Title: Re: Brunswick 3.5 -vs- Curve
Post by: charlest on March 13, 2010, 08:11:18 AM
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who gives a flyin f u c k what defenition of hybrid matters. holy s h i t i love this site but some people act like the exact people in bowling alleys i freakin hate. no offense to anyone on this post cause i see it everywhere but god d a m n people just want info here. this is not who wants to be a millionaire and measure each others c o c k s and see whos is bigger. man up and get over this s h i t guys. dont we get enough of this in the towns we bowl in
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normally you should practice to get your game good then get some equipment to put it all together and win. im lazy so i just buy new stuff and hope for the best


The difference is that when we use a certain term in bowling or any sport, activity, hobby or business, we expectthat object to conform,not just to the technical specifications, but to our own ideas and to the common and accepted usage of the terms.

In bowling hybrid has come to mean a combination of solid and pearlized coverstocks, for the 99% case. This is because a solid/pearl combo acts differently from a solid and a pearl. A solid/solid combo (Red Death) does not act differently from a solid and a pearl/pearl combo (Gemstone) does nto act differently from a pearl.

Lane#1 did the same thing years ago when they mixed Activator with PK 18. They implied this in the name of the coverstock , but they never called it a hybrid. That's because hybrids, back  then, did not have the positive implications that the Storm Hy-Road has given the label, "hybrid", in today's bowling environment.
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