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machine189

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BuzzBomb
« on: June 21, 2009, 01:16:44 AM »
Got my first Lane#1 ball drill today NIB. The Solid Buzzbomb drilled it thumb leverage and needless to say this ball is a wet noodled WTF? After sum research a lot of people have complained this ball is extremely drill sensitive. Please tell me this is a bad drill cause i hope this brand new ball is not a dud.
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Re: BuzzBomb
« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2009, 10:11:24 AM »
absolutely its a bad drill, i have yet to see anyone have sucess with thumb weight as well as bottom weight on this ball  it is very top weight sensitive

what was your beginning top weight as well
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Re: BuzzBomb
« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2009, 10:13:34 AM »
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absolutely its a bad drill, i have yet to see anyone have sucess with thumb weight as well as bottom weight on this ball it is very top weight sensitive
what was your beginning top weight as well
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2.66 oz

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Re: BuzzBomb
« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2009, 10:22:12 AM »
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Not enough oil OR the ball has cover issues
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Ok worst case scenario say it does have cover issues..Think Lane1 will help me out with something?
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Re: BuzzBomb
« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2009, 12:46:55 PM »
2.66 oz of top weight results in a bottom weighted ball, it has been proven time and again these cores do not like bottom weight.  what type of bowler are you?  stroker, tweener, cranker?  do you have an x hole in the ball?  if not please look at the drilling instructions, you will need to get a hole far enough around to raise the weight from bottom to top

on top of that a thumb weighted ball especially a heavy oil ball, better have a swamp in front of it or its gonna burn up and not have squat left on the back end
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Re: BuzzBomb
« Reply #5 on: June 21, 2009, 01:14:23 PM »
I agree with triggerman... Before I would starting trying to put a weight hole in it, I would take the ball as high as you can. 4K Abralon and hit it with a couple coats of polish. This ball will actually shine up good with the right touch. After that it may be what you need.
   
   I also agree that maybe you just dont have enough head oil to get a good reaction. I have mine pin up at box finish and even I cant use mine on a house shot if that helps you any. Get someone to put out the Shark pattern and then try it before trying to make it work just like everything else in the bag. John

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Re: BuzzBomb
« Reply #6 on: June 21, 2009, 09:50:04 PM »
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2.66 oz of top weight results in a bottom weighted ball, it has been proven time and again these cores do not like bottom weight.  what type of bowler are you?  stroker, tweener, cranker?  do you have an x hole in the ball?  if not please look at the drilling instructions, you will need to get a hole far enough around to raise the weight from bottom to top

on top of that a thumb weighted ball especially a heavy oil ball, better have a swamp in front of it or its gonna burn up and not have squat left on the back end
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sorry its not 2.66oz its 3 3/4..but i will re drill it a lot weaker
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Re: BuzzBomb
« Reply #7 on: June 21, 2009, 10:12:22 PM »
M-189....if you drilled a BuzzBomb thumb leverage then the ball is most likely hooking and rolling out in your backswing.

My BuzzBomb is drilled pin over ring with cg out with weighhole at intersection of the VAL and line drawn from grip center thru cg.
http://www.dougsproshop.net/images/MyArsenal/buzzbomb2.jpg

I need to keep this ball at 2000 grit plus polish in order to use it on anything less than the Shark pattern. Our house pattern is pretty wet but this ball needs to go back into the bag after the first game.

Most people either drill the ball too strong or put too much surface on it for the conditions they are bowling on. This is most likely your problem with the ball.

As trigger said these balls are VERY static weight sensitive....it is a must to end with fingerweight and top weight in the ball. Thumb weight or bottom weight and the ball makes a great 10 pin ball.
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Re: BuzzBomb
« Reply #8 on: June 22, 2009, 08:56:08 AM »
I think the Buzzbomb was a dud.  Even if the ball was good for one condition, heavier oil, the ball isn't worth having in you bag full time.  Yes there are those that threw and throw the ball very well, but they are defenders of Lane 1.

I agree that don't waste the time re-drilling the Buzzbomb.  Try polish, try 4000 only and 4000 with polish.  try anything to make the ball work,

then go buy a Dynamo.



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Re: BuzzBomb
« Reply #9 on: June 22, 2009, 12:07:16 PM »
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Even if the ball was good for one condition, heavier oil, the ball isn't worth having in you bag full time. Yes there are those that threw and throw the ball very well, but they are defenders of Lane 1.


Nic: The BuzzBomb was always marketed as a heavier oil ball. Which makes sense, because that's what it is. So for most people, it won't be in their bag full time. I've only carried mine 5-6 times, when I knew I'd be hitting Shark or a fresh flooded THS condition. The ball has paid for itself (and more) in these situations. In NIB cover, I tried it once on the second shift THS I see most of the time. I knew right away it was a terrible match. It would be my bad to trash the ball because I didn't use it properly.

Use it for it's intended purpose, and it does work well -- defender of Lane#1 or otherwise. As to the comments about the Dynamo, I agree. It's a much more versatile piece.
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Re: BuzzBomb
« Reply #10 on: June 22, 2009, 02:49:52 PM »
Steven,,I both agree and disagree.  The Buzzbomb should have been a ball that was touted as what the Dynamo is.  The Buzzbomb was suppose to have a tremendous back end.  A ball that burns up and rolls out does not have a huge back end.

The way the ball turned out, its a condition specific ball that isn't worth carrying around unless you anticipated heavy long oil.  Polish didn't really help the THS use of the Buzzbomb.  

The Buzzbomb was a flop.  There was many other bowling balls better in oil and the Buzzbomb did not have a very friendly coverstock.

The Dynamo is the ball the Buzzbomb was suppose to be and IMHO lives up to all the hype.  I'm not a Lane 1 basher, but except for the small amount of bowlers that need something like the Buzzbomb, it was a dud and a flop.

Also in my opinion, if the Buzzbomb was not such a flop, there would be a Lane 1 booth in Vegas as we speak.

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Re: BuzzBomb
« Reply #11 on: June 22, 2009, 03:24:59 PM »
I agree with both Steven and Nicanor.  The ball is condition specific, but so are many other balls.  Both Lane #1 and non-Lane #1.  The ball did have some hype, but not like the Dynamo.  The Dynamo has lived up to the hype and is a lot more versatile.  I as well only used the Buzzbomb in EXTREMELY heavy oil situations.  It is also the reason why I no longer own one.  I do believe many other balls were made better than the BB.
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Re: BuzzBomb
« Reply #12 on: June 22, 2009, 03:56:53 PM »
Nic: As far as the BuzzBomb, it was clear from the start that a Bomb core with 2 flip blocks was going to be more mid-lane and heavy rolling. The second flip block gives the ball a little more punch on the backend, but it's still more midlane than anything else. That's what I expected and it's what I got. On the heavier oil side, for backend, I find that it fits between the Uranium and the Dynamo.

I don't know what to say about labeling it a flop. There were a few vocal posters here (including yourself) who didn't like it. But for the most part, the people who actually test balls and publish results really liked the BuzzBomb, giving it a big thumbs up. Again, I've had good experiences with the ball, so it's hard to respond to your specific complaints.

I love the Dynamo. It's everything Lane#1 hyped up the ball to be. But when I need more midlane for an earlier breakpoint and a little less backend, I'll pull out the BuzzBomb. The BB is more condition specific than the Dynamo, but there are times when it's still the best choice.

 
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Also in my opinion, if the Buzzbomb was not such a flop, there would be a Lane 1 booth in Vegas as we speak.


With due respect, this is way out in left field. According to this logic, Brunswick should have ceased operations after bowler experiences with the original Fury.
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Re: BuzzBomb
« Reply #13 on: June 22, 2009, 04:15:04 PM »
Steven,
Brunswick bowling ball part of the company is operating in the red but is being held up by the other side of the bowling industry.

This is right off the Lane 1 website:

Lane #1 introduces a new force in the bowling industry that outhooks all others. The BuzzBOMB is packed with our all new double sided Doomsday Bomb2 core. This Doomsday double Bomb core generates double the torque, creating double the hook on the backend.
Surrounding this nuclear power plant is our all new Pure GripTM solid reactive coverstock. This new formula grips the lanes on the heaviest oil. You won't believe your eyes when you see this midlane Hook Monster explode with a Huge Backend.
Hear the Buzz, see the Hook, watch your High Scores double with the BuzzBOMB..!!
 
 

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Color: Purple/Black
Cover Stock: Pure GripTM solid reactive
Core: Doomsday Bomb2
Hook Rating: 120 out of 120 max
Backend Hook: 80%
Flare Potential: 5+
Pin Placement: 12 O’ clock 1-5” out
15lb rg min: 2.487

15lb rg max: 2.539

15lb diff: .052

Construction: 3-piece
Finish: 1000 Grit Dull
Available Weights: 13, 14, 15, & 16lb.
 

According to this, the Buzzbomb had good midlane, but the hook rating is 120 out of 120 and the backend was 80 percent.  Now that tells me huge backend, not rolling out, not buring up but double the hook on the back end.

When a small company puts out a flop like this, then follows up with the flop pearl, they doubled their mistake even though the BBr was a little more user friendly, they are not on the top of the bowling ball sales.  Way too much negative exposure.  The Agent Orange is a great ball and the Dynamo is a tremendous ball.  But just like Columbia had several years ago with regards to TECball death, it took too long to get the confidence of the bowlers back before they also ran into trouble.

When you don't put out too many balls and you put out a flop, ok lets say a very lane specific ball, then many of those on the fence of throwing Lane 1, currently throwing Lane 1 or may one day throw Lane 1, gets the bad exposure and look elsewhere to buy their next ball.

In all fairness, if many more bowlers threw or just what the Dynamo being thrown by a quality bowler, not pro, but not the 160 bowler, they can see the potential in this ball.  

If Lane 1 skipped the Buzzbomb and went right to the Dynamo series, I think the sales would be off the chart and many more bowlers throwing th Dynamo then are throwing the Dynamo now.

Thats why I think the Buzzbomb was a dud.


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