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Nicanor

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Need to re-drill my Red Death, looking for suggestions
« on: January 18, 2010, 09:43:15 AM »
I'm looking for suggestions on how to re-drill my Red Death.  The ball is rolling out/burning up to quick.

I drilled the ball with the pin next to my ring finger CG 3 inches down.  My PAP is 4 7/8 and 5/8 up measured on a plastic ball.  Want to get the ball a little further, retain some energy read the mid lane a little and still have a strong move off the break point.  Asking too much?


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Brickguy221

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Re: Need to re-drill my Red Death, looking for suggestions
« Reply #16 on: January 19, 2010, 07:15:39 PM »
I seldom post here because of the trashing this forum receives, but am so high on my new Red Death, that I decided to post about it this one time...

I finally got to throw my Red Death today which is drilled dual angle drilling of 45* x 4" x 50* with Pin drilled out in RF, on some decent lane conditions with some oil in the heads and this ball hit/carried as well as any brand of ball I have ever had. It got good length and was really strong and quick on the back end and always made it back to the pocket even when I threw it wider than I intended to.

I have never been a move left and throw wide to the right style of bowler nor able to do that, but I did today ending up moving my feet 10 boards more left than I have ever been able to do. My all time favorite Lane 1 ball was the Solid Cobalt Bomb and this Red Death is like that Solid Cobalt Bomb on steroids.
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srlunatic

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Re: Need to re-drill my Red Death, looking for suggestions
« Reply #17 on: January 19, 2010, 08:36:10 PM »
Nic,

A quick Dual Angle Info package for you..:-)

First angle is Drill Angle...

This angle is the angle between the Pin and your PAP.  This angle is created by drawing a line on a Assym ball From the Pin to the MB. On a symmetrical ball is from drawing a line from your pin through the CG to 6 3/4 inches (where the MB should be).  Then you measure the angle with a Pro Sect and then draw the line to the second number in the Dual Angle Layout.  

Example: in my earlier post went 80 X 5 1/2 X 45

The 80 is the angle between the line from your pin through CG or MB and the line from your pin to your PAP. The 5 1/2 is the distance of the line from the Pin to your PAP (give you a 5 1/2 Pin to PAP distance).  The larger the first angle, the longer down the lane we are trying to push the reaction.

Second Angle (in the case above is 45) is created by using the PIN to PAP line and then measuring a 45 degree angle using the PRO SECT and drawing this line. This is the PIN to VAL (Vertical Axis Line).  The smaller the angle, the closer your PIN is to the VAL and the sharper the reaction.  The larger the angle the farther the PIN from the VAL and the more arcy the reaction.  

So...to find the layout.  From the Line from PIN TO PAP at 5 1/2 inches you move up or down the VAL line *in this case you would move 5/8 down the VAL line* and then you draw a line from there perpendicular to the VAL 4 and 7/8 (your right/left PAP measurement).  That is the Center of Grip for your layout.

Hopefully this makes sense!!

Mike
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Re: Need to re-drill my Red Death, looking for suggestions
« Reply #18 on: January 19, 2010, 09:34:50 PM »
A small hole will not rumble when the ball rolls over it. You won't hear a thing. It'll cross it once and flare past it. The farther away from the grip you put it, the sooner on the lane it'll cross it. It's not like a large hole and catching it right before the pins.

Try it, I'm positive you'll like it. If not, that's ok too. I'm just giving you good info. It's up to you if you want to use it or not. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink it. =:^D
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Nicanor

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Re: Need to re-drill my Red Death, looking for suggestions
« Reply #19 on: January 21, 2010, 09:27:32 AM »
Thank you for the feedback.  I understand it better, but I don't have a PRO SECT but my ball driller does.  He'll go over it with me when I'm ready to re-drill the Red Death.

He did recommend to wait until after Nationals because it might be a good ball to take there drilled as is.

Thanks again,

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