Author Topic: BuzzBOMB Guarantee (Read 10010 times)

Mr Buzzsaw · « **on:** March 03, 2008, 02:38:35 AM »

It has been brought to my attention that some customers have not been happy with the new BuzzBOMB drilled label 1:30. This layout works better for shorter pins, higher tracks, and shorter oil (because this layout goes longer).

I also understand that our drill sheet says this is a 9 backend, which is why some bowlers may not be happy with the result they're getting. Balls that go longer give you more backend, but if the ball goes too long, you won't realize the hook. Maybe I shouldn't have stated such a high backend rating for this layout?

I don't want customers to be dis-satisfied with our product, especially because of an improper layout. So if...

1)Deleon
2)Nicanor
3)the-7-year-itch
4)AK47
5)SprayNpray
6)nowski1381
7)SpecVspeeD03

would have you or your pro shop/driller call us for an RA(return authorization), then send their balls in to our home office listed on our website, we will gladly send you a new one to be drilled differently.

Our tech dept. will discuss the issue with your or your driller to help get you the reaction you're looking for. We look forward to resolving your ball reaction issues and will do the best we can.

Spider Ball Bowler · « **Reply #46 on:** March 04, 2008, 05:50:22 PM »

Wow this is real? I thought it was another one of those fake posters on here saying stupid things.

I was 12 seconds away from buying a Buzz Bomb.....should have...
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T-GOD · « **Reply #47 on:** March 04, 2008, 09:08:23 PM »

Nick, don't kid yourself. If you put the pin 4" from your PAP with the CG in your palm on one ball and the CG on your axis on the other, the balls will have different reactions down the lane.

As a matter of fact, how about putting the pin 6 3/4" from your PAP with the CG stacked @ 6 3/4" then on the other ball put the CG in 4" from your PAP with the pin still @ 6 3/4". Let's see the video of this. You can do this with a Brunswick ball if you wish. Just make sure it's a dull solid coverstock. =:^D

Doug Sterner · « **Reply #48 on:** March 04, 2008, 09:18:19 PM »

Will anyone listen to a few of us? IF yo uare going to go into this Cg debate again let's use 2 balls where the ending sideweights are WITHIN USBC LEGAL LIMITS!!!!!

Take 2 balls with identical pin distances to the PAP and kick on CG to 3/4 positive side and kick the other to 3/4 negative side.

None of this 3 oz positive and 3 oz negative crap....how about it???
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BrunsNick · « **Reply #49 on:** March 04, 2008, 09:32:29 PM »

I'll have some more Buzzsaw tests for you guys soon.

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Joe Jr · « **Reply #50 on:** March 04, 2008, 09:40:38 PM »

quote:
Will anyone listen to a few of us? IF yo uare going to go into this Cg debate again let's use 2 balls where the ending sideweights are WITHIN USBC LEGAL LIMITS!!!!!

Take 2 balls with identical pin distances to the PAP and kick on CG to 3/4 positive side and kick the other to 3/4 negative side.

None of this 3 oz positive and 3 oz negative crap....how about it???
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Doug Sterner
Doug's Pro Shop
Owego, NY
http://dougsproshop@aol.com
www.dougsproshop.net
Lane 1 Buzzsaw...The Official Power Tool Of Bowling

Sounds good to me! If people are having a problem seeing a difference with 6+oz between 2 balls, there is no freakin way anyone will see a difference keeping the balls legal limits.
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Storm269 · « **Reply #51 on:** March 04, 2008, 09:57:25 PM »

Am wondering does this offer apply to Oversea's customers ?
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GTX · « **Reply #52 on:** March 05, 2008, 03:09:59 AM »

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USBC Tests showed that shifting the CG 90 degrees showed no measureable difference in ending differential or mass bias differential on a symmetrical core ball.

actually, the USBC test showed there is a noticeable difference, numbers don't lie ..

and btw, don't forget to cut/hide those shots you don't wanna show when you do your own test

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BrunsNick · « **Reply #53 on:** March 05, 2008, 04:07:27 AM »

You're absolutely right, numbers don't lie.

http://www.bowl.com/articleView.aspx?i=13354&f=21

-------------------Positive CG ball -- Negative CG ball
RG for x axis -------- 2.518 -------------2.514
Total Differential ----0.047 -------------0.045
Intermediate Diff ---- 0.009> ------------0.008
RG on the PAP ---------2.554 -------------2.548

http://www.bowl.com/images/specs_CGBall.jpg

Also, please take note of the circle drawn around the thumbhole, as that is the marked preferred spin axis. They are IDENTICAL on both bowling balls, regardless of where you shift your CG. There is no imaginary 6 3/4" mass bias on a symmetrical bowling ball.

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Edited on 3/5/2008 5:10 AM

GTX · « **Reply #54 on:** March 05, 2008, 05:31:17 AM »

as I expected (which is why I don't believe in any of your tests), you hide what you don't want to show

from that USBC test

I see you ignored the rest .. which shows what you don't want to say

Ball motion statistics -------------------------- POS ----- NEG
Average Difference in Intended Path @ 49' -- 17.27 -- 15.18
Average Difference in Intended Path @ 60' -- 29.90 -- 28.20
Difference in Average Path @ 49' ------------- 17.19 -- 15.33
Difference in Average Path @ 60' ------------- 30.31 -- 28.62
Velocity Decrease from 13'-49'---------------- 1.90 --- 1.67
Velocity Decrease from 13'-60'---------------- 2.69 --- 2.53
Change in Angle To Headpin @ 13'-49'------- 6.06 --- 5.81
Change in Angle To Headpin @ 13'-60'------- 7.18 --- 7.13

if your claim is right, how come these numbers are not even close !!! or you want to convince us that 17.27 is the same as 15.18 !! lol

quote:
There is no imaginary 6 3/4" mass bias on a symmetrical bowling ball.

and we are suppose to believe you !!! lol keep believing in what BigB feeding you

btw, if CG doesn't really matter, why your balls are drilled with POS CG !!! and NONE of them is drilled with NEG CG ... guess you're right, CG doesn't matter

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Edited on 3/5/2008 10:59 AM

Strider · « **Reply #55 on:** March 05, 2008, 07:00:07 AM »

This post started off as a great gesture by the owner of Lane #1 replacing balls people weren't happy with.

SportsAuthority trolled in and tried to bring the dead horse CG debate back to life and Nick won't let it go either.

If someone tried to do something similar in the Brunswick forum, you and the Brunswick reps would have a royal dung fit. Take your own advice and drop it already.

Thanks again for the generous offer Ritchie.
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GTX · « **Reply #56 on:** March 05, 2008, 07:09:57 AM »

Strider, that's very true.

think it pisses them off when they see lane1 owner deals with issues himself and provide something their company won't do ... I don't recall the last time BigB owner dealt with any issue .. actually I don't recall that to ever happen

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absoluteisanidiot · « **Reply #57 on:** March 05, 2008, 07:22:08 AM »

The problem is Nick, his boy Tonx and the gang can't let a great gesture by a small company and their chief just trying to help out a few people. It's sad but it can't be stopped these guys are bad for bowling.

Brickguy221 · « **Reply #58 on:** March 05, 2008, 09:05:31 AM »

quote:
This post started off as a great gesture by the owner of Lane #1 replacing balls people weren't happy with.

SportsAuthority trolled in and tried to bring the dead horse CG debate back to life and Nick won't let it go either.

If someone tried to do something similar in the Brunswick forum, you and the Brunswick reps would have a royal dung fit. Take your own advice and drop it already.

Thanks again for the generous offer Ritchie.

Excellent post Geoff. You are spot on here. I simply don't understand why they keep it up and keep it up and etc. over this CG thing. Why do they even care what others think? Using myself for example, I have my beliefs about a lot of things and I am happy with my beliefs, so if I am happy with what I believe in, why should I give a rats arse what others think? Why does it bother these cgnomaddah people what others think?
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T-GOD · « **Reply #59 on:** March 05, 2008, 09:05:39 AM »

anidiot, exactamundo..!! =:^D

AK47 · « **Reply #60 on:** March 05, 2008, 10:16:07 AM »

Thanks again Richie and LANE #1 staff!! Can't wait for the Fusion Bomb and the Smart Bomb!!!!!!!!!! I'm saving up right now

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