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Title: buzzbomb mini-review
Post by: strikealot on May 08, 2008, 11:21:07 AM
just arrived today and i drilled it up..

http://h1.ripway.com/longlip/buzzbomb.JPG

first impression..i love it...only used on broke down ugly house shot..they didnt run them today..the ball was strong mid-lane with continous  backend...only threw it about 30 times but struck 25 of them..never leaving a single pin..if i didnt strike it was because i threw it bad...i will get to see what it does on the shark tomorrow and will update...so far i dont see what people are talking about with the ball not hooking and hitting..mine is a monster...for the static wt freaks it has 1/2 oz thumb and 1.2 oz of side(will put wt hole in tonight to correct the side wt issue)
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Title: Re: buzzbomb mini-review
Post by: Steven on May 08, 2008, 08:24:18 PM
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so far i dont see what people are talking about with the ball not hooking and hitting..mine is a monster...


Amazing what happens when you know how to throw a ball correctly. Good to hear the ball produces for you.
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Title: Re: buzzbomb mini-review
Post by: Kid Jete on May 08, 2008, 08:51:19 PM
quote:
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so far i dont see what people are talking about with the ball not hooking and hitting..mine is a monster...


Amazing what happens when you know how to throw a ball correctly. Good to hear the ball produces for you.
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Well obviously if you throw a ball correctly you'll get a much better reaction.  How many of us on this site throw it perfect though?
Title: Re: buzzbomb mini-review
Post by: BeansProShop on May 08, 2008, 09:48:52 PM
Make sure you put the hole where it won't take more thumb out. Put it lower so you add finger wt.

Beans

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Title: Re: buzzbomb mini-review
Post by: roger on May 09, 2008, 06:49:28 AM
Beans,

You said "Make sure you put the hole where it won't take more thumb out. Put it lower so you add finger wt."

If the wh is put lower it will take out thumb and add finger.
I do not undertand your recommendation.
Title: Re: buzzbomb mini-review
Post by: LaneHammer20 on May 09, 2008, 07:28:13 AM
i think that is what he meant
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Title: Re: buzzbomb mini-review
Post by: strikealot on May 09, 2008, 08:43:13 AM
ok beans..and yes he meant to add finger, put the hole lower..
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Title: Re: buzzbomb mini-review
Post by: Nicanor on May 09, 2008, 10:00:36 AM
Very similar to my first Buzzbomb and the ball puked.  I still think it was the ball and not all Buzzbombs.  I'm pretty sure that Beans ment to say less thumb weight is what you're looking for and thats the reason for a lower balance hole.

That said, since I drilled the second Buzzbomb and have been throwing it for  couple of weeks I can honestly say the Buzzbomb is a great ball. I no longer look for  ton of back end tht I thought the Buzzbomb was going to have and only play what the lane gives me.  The Buzzbomb is strong but controllable and carry is tremendous.  If lined up with the Buzzbomb, I cn sty longer with it then I can with other bowling balls in my arsenl with the same cover prep and drilling relizing that there are other factors, but enough to make a comparison.

Occssionaly I will bring out the first Buzzbomb and throw it side by side with the new Buzzbomb and the results are the same.  I'm trying to work with the cover prep with Bean's Secret Sauce to see if I can work this ball in to my arsenal but I hope the THS Teal will fill this hole.


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Title: Re: buzzbomb mini-review
Post by: strikealot on May 09, 2008, 10:48:29 AM
cant wait to throw it on the shark today...on the condition i threw mine on there was no puking....i put hole lower..still has a small amt of thumb wt and legal side now..
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Title: Re: buzzbomb mini-review
Post by: BeansProShop on May 09, 2008, 11:04:34 AM
quote:
Make sure you put the hole where it won't take more thumb out. Put it lower so you add finger wt.

Beans



LOL!! I guess I did type that pretty stupid ,huh??

It should have read { Do not add more thumb weight}

Beans


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Title: Re: buzzbomb mini-review
Post by: BeansProShop on May 09, 2008, 11:06:59 AM
quote:
Very similar to my first Buzzbomb and the ball puked.  I still think it was the ball and not all Buzzbombs.  I'm pretty sure that Beans ment to say less thumb weight is what you're looking for and thats the reason for a lower balance hole.

That said, since I drilled the second Buzzbomb and have been throwing it for  couple of weeks I can honestly say the Buzzbomb is a great ball. I no longer look for  ton of back end tht I thought the Buzzbomb was going to have and only play what the lane gives me.  The Buzzbomb is strong but controllable and carry is tremendous.  If lined up with the Buzzbomb, I cn sty longer with it then I can with other bowling balls in my arsenl with the same cover prep and drilling relizing that there are other factors, but enough to make a comparison.

Occssionaly I will bring out the first Buzzbomb and throw it side by side with the new Buzzbomb and the results are the same.  I'm trying to work with the cover prep with Bean's Secret Sauce to see if I can work this ball in to my arsenal but I hope the THS Teal will fill this hole.


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Be sure to try a TRUE 1000 Grit with light Secret Sauce. By true I mean make sure the abrasive is pretty new and not worn.

Beans
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Title: Re: buzzbomb mini-review
Post by: novawagonmaster on May 09, 2008, 02:19:51 PM
quote:
quote:
so far i dont see what people are talking about with the ball not hooking and hitting..mine is a monster...


Amazing what happens when you know how to throw a ball correctly. Good to hear the ball produces for you.
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Very helpful Steven.

I guess anytime you get an undesirable ball reaction, you should learn to throw the ball "correctly".

Just curious...does Walter Ray Williams throw the ball correctly, or does Robert Smith?
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Title: Re: buzzbomb mini-review
Post by: Steven on May 09, 2008, 02:57:01 PM
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Very helpful Steven.


Well, thank you Nova.

quote:
I guess anytime you get an undesirable ball reaction, you should learn to throw the ball "correctly".


The Buzzbomb is not a ball that should ever provide an undesirable reaction if set up correctly for a given style, and thrown with prerequisite ability to judge an aggressive ball like this fairly.

I'm not quite the ball whore you are, but I throw enough of different brands and just about every different type of ball to know a flat out winner from  something that will successful in only specific situations.

The Buzzbomb falls into the 'flat out winner' category. I've thrown it on fresh THS, spotty THS, and my PBA pattern league (including Nationals shot), and it's one of the most effective pieces I've ever owned. I've watched bowlers of many different styles have success with it. So, I'm convinced that if someone 'thinks' they have issues with the BB, it's in fact more bowler related than anything else.    

Before being labeled a kool-aid drinker, I wouldn't say this about every Lane#1 offering. I can understand bowlers having complaints about pieces like the Golden Nugget and the Cranberry, because they are balls that are more style and condition specific. On the other hand, the BB is a ball that any higher end THS hack (and above) should love.

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Just curious...does Walter Ray Williams throw the ball correctly, or does Robert Smith?


You were so anxious to jump down my throat that you immediately took my 'correctly' statement out of context. 'Correctly' has nothing to do with a specific style. It's being continuously effective with any style you've developed to be versatile, competitive, and successful. There is no reason that either a Walter Ray or Robert Smith style couldn't find success with the BB.

Hope all this helps clear things up for you.  
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Edited on 5/9/2008 2:59 PM
Title: Re: buzzbomb mini-review
Post by: novawagonmaster on May 09, 2008, 06:11:28 PM
quote:
The Buzzbomb is not a ball that should ever provide an undesirable reaction if set up correctly for a given style, and thrown with prerequisite ability to judge an aggressive ball like this fairly.


I would expect this to be true of any modern high performance bowling ball.

Essentially you are saying that it's about matching up. This has always been the case with any ball and every bowler.

As for taking things out of context, how could I? Your comment was short and sweet. "Amazing what happens when you know how to throw a ball correctly." To me that means, "Anyone having truoble with the ball is not throwing it right". If that is not what you meant, you could have taken a few seconds to type a more clear response.



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Title: Re: buzzbomb mini-review
Post by: AK47 on May 09, 2008, 10:22:40 PM
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Quote


As for taking things out of context, how could I? Your comment was short and sweet. "Amazing what happens when you know how to throw a ball correctly." To me that means, "Anyone having truoble with the ball is not throwing it right". If that is not what you meant, you could have taken a few seconds to type a more clear response.



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Must agree with ya Nova, seeing that i'm one of the one's who did not have success with the BB, when i read the comment i felt insulted.  I just got back home from practicing with my New BB, Supernova, Carbide Plus, Nebula.  My Carbide Plus puts them all to shame! The BB is not Burning up and i was throwing them right, one after another.  Don't get me wrong the BB is good ball, but as of now my Carbide Plus is better, just my 2 cents. (at least i'm honest!)
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Title: Re: buzzbomb mini-review
Post by: Nicanor on May 10, 2008, 12:56:20 AM
I guess when you score well with a Lane 1 ball you really know how to throw the ball correctly, but the same bowler throws a Lane 1 ball that doesn't live up to all its hype, you don't know how to throw a ball correctly.  Is that what I was suppose to believe.  I throw a 300 with the Tsunami so thats great, I get a bad ball from Lane 1 and post that experience and all of a sudden I can't throw a ball correctly.






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Edited on 5/10/2008 9:37 AM
Title: Re: buzzbomb mini-review
Post by: strikealot on May 10, 2008, 04:07:05 AM
you must have got one of the few good carbide +s...i have one and it does nothing for me or anyone else who has thrown it...ive actually heard more bad things about carbide + than most other lane1 balls...my buzzbomb out hooks  my carbide + by a good 7 boards..though i plug the wt hole in my carbide + and move it as suggested by Beans and shot 801 with it...
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Title: Re: buzzbomb mini-review
Post by: BeansProShop on May 10, 2008, 02:00:28 PM
The Carbide Plus in my eyes was a condition specific piece because of the larger particle load. I also see that in the Buzzbomb for some players out of the box. Once they find the surface that works best they really fall in love with the ball. If there is a bad layout choice and cover prep that will really make a customer unhappy. I am just glad Lane#1 was able to make sure our customers like Nicanor were happy.

Customer service of Lane#1....

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Title: Re: buzzbomb mini-review
Post by: Nicanor on May 10, 2008, 04:03:42 PM
Customer service #1


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Title: Re: buzzbomb mini-review
Post by: novawagonmaster on May 10, 2008, 07:18:45 PM
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The Carbide Plus in my eyes was a condition specific piece because of the larger particle load.


I don't believe that was the case at all with the C+. Mine had very little flare, and the bowtie was way below where it should have been. Plugged and redrilled with a completely different layout, same thing. Contacted Lane #1 and they were willing to replace it. I never got around to sending the ball in, so that is my fault. However, I sincerely believe the ball was grossly mismarked, and I know other users experienced similar problems around the same time with the C+. The Tsunami was another ball that was of questionable quality. Same deal. Some loved it, some hated it. There was also talk of a bad run of those. Who knows.

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Title: Re: buzzbomb mini-review
Post by: AK47 on May 10, 2008, 08:34:05 PM
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The Carbide Plus in my eyes was a condition specific piece because of the larger particle load.


However, I sincerely believe the ball was grossly mismarked, and I know other users experienced similar problems around the same time with the C+.
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 Must agree with the mismarked C+ (seeing that i own 3 of them).  The one i just used at state tourney today I bought NIB, but had to redrill cause ball flared bad over fingers with my normal drill.  But this baby is a beast Now!  Covers 5-7 more boards than my BB on same condition.  Hey, at least i'm honest.
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Title: Re: buzzbomb mini-review
Post by: T-GOD on May 10, 2008, 11:23:13 PM
quote:
 Mine had very little flare, and the bowtie was way below where it should have been
That must have been one of those re-worked Brunswick jobs with the mis-marked pin. =:^D
Title: Re: buzzbomb mini-review
Post by: T-GOD on May 10, 2008, 11:26:58 PM
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Mine had very little flare, and the bowtie was way below where it should have been.
Must have been one of those re-worked jobs by Brunswick where they tried to make a short pin look like a longer pin. =:^D