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Necromancer

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I won't act like I know a lot about this company because I don't.  I tried out the Cobalt Solid and I must say it is one of the worst bowling balls I have ever used in my life.  I can't use it for anything.  It hooks weak on strikes and can't be used for a spare ball.

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I would like to know how this ball ranks among the rest of Lane #1 products.  I bought it pumped up by the song on the website and all the videos with "Lane 1 baby, Lane 1!".  The ball turned out to be a total inconsistent weak hitting dud.  

I have gotten some PM's by others that even agree.  So yeah, I am shocked.  For a company that is notorious for selling very expensive bowling balls, what is up with this ball?  Also, I heard they use Brunswick covers?  Are they another Elite?  

Explain please.
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Sir Bowl-A-Lot

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Re: Calling out Lane #1 Bowlers and Questions on Cobalt Solid!
« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2007, 01:03:53 PM »
Wow, I must be in the minority here because I absolutely love mine.  It is drilled 4 x 3.5, box finish, and is a backend beast.  Hits harder than pretty much any other ball I have ever thrown.
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Re: Calling out Lane #1 Bowlers and Questions on Cobalt Solid!
« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2007, 01:05:58 PM »
pm sent necro
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Re: Calling out Lane #1 Bowlers and Questions on Cobalt Solid!
« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2007, 01:06:36 PM »
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Wow, I must be in the minority here because I absolutely love mine.  It is drilled 4 x 3.5, box finish, and is a backend beast.  Hits harder than pretty much any other ball I have ever thrown.
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I either got a dud (idea from another bowler here) or something else is wrong.  I never had such an inconsistent ball in my life.  And when it hits the pocket, it DOES NOT destroy "rack after rack" like in the videos.  It is good for leaving 10 pins all day.
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Lane #1 Cobalt Bomb Solid
Storm Trauma ER
Storm El Nino X-IT
Brunswick Quantum Helix
Brunswick Quantum Double Helix
Storm Recharge
Columbia 300 Messenger Ti
Ebonite Vortex Afterburner
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Ebonite 14 Fun Ball
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Sir Bowl-A-Lot

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Re: Calling out Lane #1 Bowlers and Questions on Cobalt Solid!
« Reply #4 on: May 01, 2007, 01:09:09 PM »
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I either got a dud (idea from another bowler here) or something else is wrong.  I never had such an inconsistent ball in my life.  And when it hits the pocket, it DOES NOT destroy "rack after rack" like in the videos.  It is good for leaving 10 pins all day.

Maybe you did.  I believe Brickguy221 (I believe that's his name on here) posted a few months ago how Lane#1 replaced his because they said it had a manufacturing defect of some kind.  I would contact Lane#1 and see what they have to say.  I'm sure they could run the serial number for you.
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Re: Calling out Lane #1 Bowlers and Questions on Cobalt Solid!
« Reply #5 on: May 01, 2007, 01:28:29 PM »
Mine works just fine on a THS.
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Re: Calling out Lane #1 Bowlers and Questions on Cobalt Solid!
« Reply #6 on: May 01, 2007, 01:41:32 PM »
I don't have one, but you took a dull ball and threw a strong early revving drill on it.  My guess is that it is rolling out unless you find some really good head oil.  How many games and lane conditions did you try before posting your "review"?
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Re: Calling out Lane #1 Bowlers and Questions on Cobalt Solid!
« Reply #7 on: May 01, 2007, 01:56:56 PM »
Necromancer: You seem to be going over the deep end as far as your rants against this ball. Especially extending the negativity to Lane#1 in general.

I don't have the Cobalt, but I do have other Lane#1's with the base Bomb core (2 Dirty Bombs and a Super Carbide Bomb). Among all the Lane#1 cores, I've found the Bomb core to be the touchiest with respect to layout. Set up aggressively like yours, they can produce an early hook/set reaction, which for many bowlers is a recipe for a weak pocket entry. My Hybrid Dirty Bomb is set up too aggressive (my fault), and it's my least 'loved' saw.

I'm surprised you would take a core you have no familiarity with, and max it out without knowing what you were getting yourself into. It's always better to start with a more neutral drill, and then get more exotic when you have a little experience with the company/line.

In this case, mark this failure up to operator error. Lane#1 has a fine line of equipment, which you would appreciate if you approached things a little more conservatively.

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Sir Bowl-A-Lot

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Re: Calling out Lane #1 Bowlers and Questions on Cobalt Solid!
« Reply #8 on: May 01, 2007, 01:58:19 PM »
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Necromancer: You seem to be going over the deep end as far as your rants against this ball. Especially extending the negativity to Lane#1 in general.

I don't have the Cobalt, but I do have other Lane#1's with the base Bomb core (2 Dirty Bombs and a Super Carbide Bomb). Among all the Lane#1 cores, I've found the Bomb core to be the touchiest with respect to layout. Set up aggressively like yours, they can produce an early hook/set reaction, which for many bowlers is a recipe for a weak pocket entry. My Hybrid Dirty Bomb is set up too aggressive (my fault), and it's my least 'loved' saw.

I'm surprised you would take a core you have no familiarity with, and max it out without knowing what you were getting yourself into. It's always better to start with a more neutral drill, and then get more exotic when you have a little experience with the company/line.

In this case, mark this failure up to operator error. Lane#1 has a fine line of equipment, which you would appreciate if you approached things a little more conservatively.


After that comment, I should go grab some popcorn and a good seat for this one.  
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Necromancer

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Re: Calling out Lane #1 Bowlers and Questions on Cobalt Solid!
« Reply #9 on: May 01, 2007, 02:03:18 PM »
I have bowled probably 10 over different patterns and wood/synthetic.  I usually wait awhile before I review a ball.  But yeah, this ball is just not at all what I expected it to be.  

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I don't have one, but you took a dull ball and threw a strong early revving drill on it.  My guess is that it is rolling out unless you find some really good head oil.  How many games and lane conditions did you try before posting your "review"?
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Storm Recharge
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Necromancer

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Re: Calling out Lane #1 Bowlers and Questions on Cobalt Solid!
« Reply #10 on: May 01, 2007, 02:05:36 PM »
No popcorn needed haha.  The ball was used and that is how it was drilled.  I would have though probably drilled it similar to the way it is now.  So maybe I should try polishing it up and seeing what it does.  

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Necromancer: You seem to be going over the deep end as far as your rants against this ball. Especially extending the negativity to Lane#1 in general.

I don't have the Cobalt, but I do have other Lane#1's with the base Bomb core (2 Dirty Bombs and a Super Carbide Bomb). Among all the Lane#1 cores, I've found the Bomb core to be the touchiest with respect to layout. Set up aggressively like yours, they can produce an early hook/set reaction, which for many bowlers is a recipe for a weak pocket entry. My Hybrid Dirty Bomb is set up too aggressive (my fault), and it's my least 'loved' saw.

I'm surprised you would take a core you have no familiarity with, and max it out without knowing what you were getting yourself into. It's always better to start with a more neutral drill, and then get more exotic when you have a little experience with the company/line.

In this case, mark this failure up to operator error. Lane#1 has a fine line of equipment, which you would appreciate if you approached things a little more conservatively.


After that comment, I should go grab some popcorn and a good seat for this one.  
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Current Arsenal
Brunswick Fury
Columbia 300 EPX T1
Storm X-Factor Vertigo
Ebonite The One
Hammer Black Widow x 2
Ebonite Xcel Particle
Lane #1 Cobalt Bomb Solid
Storm Trauma ER
Storm El Nino X-IT
Brunswick Quantum Helix
Brunswick Quantum Double Helix
Storm Recharge
Columbia 300 Messenger Ti
Ebonite Vortex Afterburner
Storm Hit Blue Pearl
Ebonite 14 Fun Ball
Averages: Season 206.467; 2007 Year 213.067; 2007 Tourney 178.029;
Black Widow: Average 244.100; High Game 279
BR Member Since: April 3, 2001
Current Arsenal Gallery
H: Brunswick Fury, Columbia 300 EPX T1
M-H: Storm Shift Gravity, Hammer Black Widow
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M-L: Storm Recharge
S: Viz-A-Ball White
Bench: Brunswick Target Spare Zone, Ebonite 14 Fun Ball
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Re: Calling out Lane #1 Bowlers and Questions on Cobalt Solid!
« Reply #11 on: May 01, 2007, 02:06:19 PM »
I agree that popcorn might be needed!

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Re: Calling out Lane #1 Bowlers and Questions on Cobalt Solid!
« Reply #12 on: May 01, 2007, 02:08:28 PM »
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So maybe I should try polishing it up and seeing what it does.

If you have never tried it polished, I would.  I never knocked the factory polish off of mine because I loved how it performed right out of the box on our THS on ProAnvils.  Every now and then I hit it with some Track Magic Shine to keep the surface close to its original finish.
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Edited on 5/1/2007 2:07 PM

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Re: Calling out Lane #1 Bowlers and Questions on Cobalt Solid!
« Reply #13 on: May 01, 2007, 02:10:48 PM »
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The ball was used and that is how it was drilled. I would have though probably drilled it similar to the way it is now. So maybe I should try polishing it up and seeing what it does.


There are some core/drill combinations that just don't work for some bowlers. You can't 'polish' your way out of a bad hook shape. But if you're not willing to consider another layout, you don't have many other choices.

Regardless, I hope you consider all this before making a final evaluation that the ball is a flop.
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Re: Calling out Lane #1 Bowlers and Questions on Cobalt Solid!
« Reply #14 on: May 01, 2007, 02:10:52 PM »
please polish it, that surface with that core with that drilling spells burn up to me no matter what, sniff dry and it is using energy by the boat loads.

I still stand behind what i said in the pm to you, but please take it up to 1000 grit and apply a coat of powerhouse or similar
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