Post by: Necromancer on May 01, 2007, 05:01:46 AM
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I would like to know how this ball ranks among the rest of Lane #1 products. I bought it pumped up by the song on the website and all the videos with "Lane 1 baby, Lane 1!". The ball turned out to be a total inconsistent weak hitting dud.
I have gotten some PM's by others that even agree. So yeah, I am shocked. For a company that is notorious for selling very expensive bowling balls, what is up with this ball? Also, I heard they use Brunswick covers? Are they another Elite?
Explain please.
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Post by: Sir Bowl-A-Lot on May 01, 2007, 01:03:53 PM
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Post by: triggerman on May 01, 2007, 01:05:58 PM
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Post by: Necromancer on May 01, 2007, 01:06:36 PM
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Wow, I must be in the minority here because I absolutely love mine. It is drilled 4 x 3.5, box finish, and is a backend beast. Hits harder than pretty much any other ball I have ever thrown.
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I either got a dud (idea from another bowler here) or something else is wrong. I never had such an inconsistent ball in my life. And when it hits the pocket, it DOES NOT destroy "rack after rack" like in the videos. It is good for leaving 10 pins all day.
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Hammer Black Widow x 2
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Lane #1 Cobalt Bomb Solid
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Storm Recharge
Columbia 300 Messenger Ti
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Post by: Sir Bowl-A-Lot on May 01, 2007, 01:09:09 PM
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I either got a dud (idea from another bowler here) or something else is wrong. I never had such an inconsistent ball in my life. And when it hits the pocket, it DOES NOT destroy "rack after rack" like in the videos. It is good for leaving 10 pins all day.
Maybe you did. I believe Brickguy221 (I believe that's his name on here) posted a few months ago how Lane#1 replaced his because they said it had a manufacturing defect of some kind. I would contact Lane#1 and see what they have to say. I'm sure they could run the serial number for you.
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Post by: novawagonmaster on May 01, 2007, 01:28:29 PM
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Post by: Strider on May 01, 2007, 01:41:32 PM
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Post by: Steven on May 01, 2007, 01:56:56 PM
I don't have the Cobalt, but I do have other Lane#1's with the base Bomb core (2 Dirty Bombs and a Super Carbide Bomb). Among all the Lane#1 cores, I've found the Bomb core to be the touchiest with respect to layout. Set up aggressively like yours, they can produce an early hook/set reaction, which for many bowlers is a recipe for a weak pocket entry. My Hybrid Dirty Bomb is set up too aggressive (my fault), and it's my least 'loved' saw.
I'm surprised you would take a core you have no familiarity with, and max it out without knowing what you were getting yourself into. It's always better to start with a more neutral drill, and then get more exotic when you have a little experience with the company/line.
In this case, mark this failure up to operator error. Lane#1 has a fine line of equipment, which you would appreciate if you approached things a little more conservatively.
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Post by: Sir Bowl-A-Lot on May 01, 2007, 01:58:19 PM
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Necromancer: You seem to be going over the deep end as far as your rants against this ball. Especially extending the negativity to Lane#1 in general.
I don't have the Cobalt, but I do have other Lane#1's with the base Bomb core (2 Dirty Bombs and a Super Carbide Bomb). Among all the Lane#1 cores, I've found the Bomb core to be the touchiest with respect to layout. Set up aggressively like yours, they can produce an early hook/set reaction, which for many bowlers is a recipe for a weak pocket entry. My Hybrid Dirty Bomb is set up too aggressive (my fault), and it's my least 'loved' saw.
I'm surprised you would take a core you have no familiarity with, and max it out without knowing what you were getting yourself into. It's always better to start with a more neutral drill, and then get more exotic when you have a little experience with the company/line.
In this case, mark this failure up to operator error. Lane#1 has a fine line of equipment, which you would appreciate if you approached things a little more conservatively.
After that comment, I should go grab some popcorn and a good seat for this one.
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Post by: Necromancer on May 01, 2007, 02:03:18 PM
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I don't have one, but you took a dull ball and threw a strong early revving drill on it. My guess is that it is rolling out unless you find some really good head oil. How many games and lane conditions did you try before posting your "review"?
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Post by: Necromancer on May 01, 2007, 02:05:36 PM
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Necromancer: You seem to be going over the deep end as far as your rants against this ball. Especially extending the negativity to Lane#1 in general.
I don't have the Cobalt, but I do have other Lane#1's with the base Bomb core (2 Dirty Bombs and a Super Carbide Bomb). Among all the Lane#1 cores, I've found the Bomb core to be the touchiest with respect to layout. Set up aggressively like yours, they can produce an early hook/set reaction, which for many bowlers is a recipe for a weak pocket entry. My Hybrid Dirty Bomb is set up too aggressive (my fault), and it's my least 'loved' saw.
I'm surprised you would take a core you have no familiarity with, and max it out without knowing what you were getting yourself into. It's always better to start with a more neutral drill, and then get more exotic when you have a little experience with the company/line.
In this case, mark this failure up to operator error. Lane#1 has a fine line of equipment, which you would appreciate if you approached things a little more conservatively.
After that comment, I should go grab some popcorn and a good seat for this one.
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Ebonite The One
Hammer Black Widow x 2
Ebonite Xcel Particle
Lane #1 Cobalt Bomb Solid
Storm Trauma ER
Storm El Nino X-IT
Brunswick Quantum Helix
Brunswick Quantum Double Helix
Storm Recharge
Columbia 300 Messenger Ti
Ebonite Vortex Afterburner
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Ebonite 14 Fun Ball
Averages: Season 206.467; 2007 Year 213.067; 2007 Tourney 178.029;
Black Widow: Average 244.100; High Game 279
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Post by: 300isComing on May 01, 2007, 02:06:19 PM
Shotgun on a front row seat!!!
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Post by: Sir Bowl-A-Lot on May 01, 2007, 02:08:28 PM
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So maybe I should try polishing it up and seeing what it does.
If you have never tried it polished, I would. I never knocked the factory polish off of mine because I loved how it performed right out of the box on our THS on ProAnvils. Every now and then I hit it with some Track Magic Shine to keep the surface close to its original finish.
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Post by: Steven on May 01, 2007, 02:10:48 PM
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The ball was used and that is how it was drilled. I would have though probably drilled it similar to the way it is now. So maybe I should try polishing it up and seeing what it does.
There are some core/drill combinations that just don't work for some bowlers. You can't 'polish' your way out of a bad hook shape. But if you're not willing to consider another layout, you don't have many other choices.
Regardless, I hope you consider all this before making a final evaluation that the ball is a flop.
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Post by: triggerman on May 01, 2007, 02:10:52 PM
I still stand behind what i said in the pm to you, but please take it up to 1000 grit and apply a coat of powerhouse or similar
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Post by: Necromancer on May 01, 2007, 02:11:01 PM
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Hammer Black Widow x 2
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Lane #1 Cobalt Bomb Solid
Storm Trauma ER
Storm El Nino X-IT
Brunswick Quantum Helix
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Storm Recharge
Columbia 300 Messenger Ti
Ebonite Vortex Afterburner
Storm Hit Blue Pearl
Ebonite 14 Fun Ball
Averages: Season 206.467; 2007 Year 213.067; 2007 Tourney 178.029;
Black Widow: Average 244.100; High Game 279
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Post by: SlowHand on May 01, 2007, 02:17:45 PM
I have that same drill on my Hybrid Dirty Bomb but my weight hole is in the thumb positive quadrant. I had heard some people just don't match up with a stacked drilling with a bomb core, mine is not the case. Mine is a BEAST!
But I did make sure my side weight was about a 1/2oz or less (static weight). Not sure what this does for it but it sure rolls sweet. Might want to check yours. Now what is that finish on yours. Looks to be about 800-1000? Since you are pinging ten pins (or corners) I would have to assume it may be burning off too much energy. Might want to take it to about 2000 with no polish first, then if that don't work try 1000 with ruff buff finish.
Sorry I can't help much more than that...
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Post by: Necromancer on May 01, 2007, 02:22:13 PM
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Brunswick Fury
Columbia 300 EPX T1
Storm X-Factor Vertigo
Ebonite The One
Hammer Black Widow x 2
Ebonite Xcel Particle
Lane #1 Cobalt Bomb Solid
Storm Trauma ER
Storm El Nino X-IT
Brunswick Quantum Helix
Brunswick Quantum Double Helix
Storm Recharge
Columbia 300 Messenger Ti
Ebonite Vortex Afterburner
Storm Hit Blue Pearl
Ebonite 14 Fun Ball
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Black Widow: Average 244.100; High Game 279
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Post by: adman on May 01, 2007, 02:31:49 PM
I have two Cobalt Solids and its one of the more versatile balls in my aresenal. Sorry its not working out for you right now. You never know, I've tried new balls and some have never worked out for me the first couple of weeks. I'll end up putting it away in my basement and then I'll pull it out again months down the road and BHAM, GOLD.
Good luck
Post by: zeusjr on May 01, 2007, 08:55:19 PM
Post by: Necromancer on May 01, 2007, 09:32:19 PM
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The cobalt solid was extremely funny for me....
I drilled a customers one, a 4.75 by pin 2 inches above midline, cg stacked with no XH, and liked its roll (Similar spans)when I had a throw.
Knowing this, I drilled one for myself with exactly the same specs, and mine wouldn't move or hit. It just seemed DOA, on the same conditions, and side by side, mine seemed a good 15 boards weaker with no backend and no ability to generate friction on the dry.
Maybe there was a bad batch?
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Sounds like my ball. I tested in practice one time and just kept rolling it down between the 1st and 2nd arrow. Same revs, same speed, and sometimes it would come back to the pocket strong and sometimes it would never make it back or hit very weak. I don't think the core has that much influence. But now I don't know. I still gotta test it when super polished.
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Ebonite The One
Hammer Black Widow x 2
Ebonite Xcel Particle
Lane #1 Cobalt Bomb Solid
Storm Trauma ER
Storm El Nino X-IT
Brunswick Quantum Helix
Brunswick Quantum Double Helix
Storm Recharge
Columbia 300 Messenger Ti
Ebonite Vortex Afterburner
Storm Hit Blue Pearl
Ebonite 14 Fun Ball
Averages: Season 206.467; 2007 Year 213.067; 2007 Tourney 178.029;
Black Widow: Average 244.100; High Game 279
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Post by: GTX on May 02, 2007, 01:10:31 AM
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Maybe there was a bad batch?
maybe it is why lane#1 left BigB ...
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Post by: D McLaughlin on May 02, 2007, 01:41:04 AM
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Post by: AdrianS on May 02, 2007, 04:59:18 AM
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Post by: Playmaker on May 03, 2007, 12:27:30 PM
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Post by: novawagonmaster on May 03, 2007, 12:44:23 PM
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Bad match up? It happens. My latest list:
TA from MoRich
RI, BI, SZ and IZ from Brunswick
U-pearl, u-solid from Lane#1
Violet Q-Quantum
Hmmmmm...
I'm sensing a pattern..lol..
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