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TheDude

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Can you justify paying more for a Lane One ball?
« on: December 28, 2003, 09:03:09 AM »
I don't have a beef with Lane one users but this company to me doesn't have a hold on me like some do. I'm not faithful to anyone company and i'll through and promote a ball from any company if i think it's good. I even tried a cherry bomb and gave it away.


Ok, understand a ball company can have a following but it doesn't make sense to over charge just for a particular core shape over any other. The Diamond shape core is yes a "proven" core but so is the standard pancake and lightbulb styles ones too.

Lane 1 made in brunswick factory, ok that is a well known fact. Another well known fact, Dynothane is made in the storm factory. So why do you listen when the company uses that as an excuse to explain why there prices are higher than other average high end releases. With there own actual tour staff( dynothane has, Lane one does not), with new cover designs( soaker), and lane one using brunswick covers and there special pattend Diamond core. Logically i can explain spending more on a dynothane ball that a comparabley priced ball from example : storm. But in fact there priced slightly lower than high end releases from storm.

IF you think for a few minutes using your business caps. The dynothane profit margins are likely lower per ball than Lane One's is. They have to deal with the middle man( manufactuers) to get the product to your proshop too. So does lane one but they charge everyone below them in the supply chain more. To me it doesn't make sense to charge more. Dynothane's balls and business practices to me make alot more sense than lane one's. That is why i can easily justify buying a dyno ball over a Lane one ball any day.

Dynothane= Very Good Product, at better than market prices.
Lane 1= Good Product that gets rehashed, at unreasonable prices.

If a company like track for example used the Morpheus core in all it's balls as it's basis for there core design what would you think? Little stale? Don't ya say? Balls are honestly not as well marketed by lane one as Dynothane's are. Although i do love the flash video music to Lane 1's site( gooooo TCM!!!) and dynothane does have any flash graphics. ( Tony, lol how bout some cool bowling vids, it's all the crazy in the Lane one forums )

Just two cents from a former proshop operator that would rather drill and sell a customer a ball from Dyno than Lane 1.


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Re: Can you justify paying more for a Lane One ball?
« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2003, 12:14:39 AM »
hi,

   I have a two game anomaly i will sell you or anyone else for 90.00
shipped so if this ball is better thn lane one balls and it is so great
how come me and a former team usa coach say it is pure junk. I am sure my current pba coach and i are idiots and cannot use this great piece of core/coverstock combo that is hyped and neither of us cannot make it recover from wide shots with 7 releases between two bowlers. The v2 strong i had there on the same shot is easily 10 boards stronger so is the anomaly a great ball or just junk huh i wonder?????? Btw i have never sold a buzzsaw for under 50.00 bucks even two drilled so you do get your money back in an equal price to resale amount. But i am sure you will know better than me and my coach that dynothane is farly superior to us crappy bowlers. So dont freeze too much in canada and have a nice day and happy holidays to you and yours DUDE

MTFD24

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Re: Can you justify paying more for a Lane One ball?
« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2003, 12:24:57 AM »
1st, this horse can not be beat to death, it has long since passed on to greener pastures.
2nd, I am not, and never will have a Lane 1 ball in my hand (personal reasons that a few know), but it is not due to price.
3rd, before everyone that enjoys Lane 1 replies, even in defense, remember that by doing so you fall right into what The Dude wants, to rile your feathers.

Lastly, it seems amazing that The Dude has been here for quite sometime, and yet, until today only had 1 or 2 posts, now all of a sudden out of the woodwork and into the Lane 1 debates. And now PJ is quiet....Hmmmm
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Re: Can you justify paying more for a Lane One ball?
« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2003, 12:26:24 AM »
A regional distributor once told me that even though the Lane 1 equipment is made in a brunswick factory, the diamond-shaped cores are more expensive to produce.  Though I am ignorant to the actual production cost differences for Lane 1 versus another manufacturers, it stands to reason that the more complex a piece of equipment - for example a bowling ball with a five piece core versus a three piece core - will cost more to produce.  From an economics standpoint, Lane 1 likely suffers from a lack of economy of scale because they don't sell as many bowling balls as the bigger companies.  In laymans terms, the more units you produce (the larger your scale), generally the cheaper it is to produce one unit.  Having said all this, until you're actually a managerial accountant working for Lane 1 who previously worked for Dyno-Thane, you can only speculate on Lane 1's true production costs (as am I).

I'm not for or against Lane 1 products.  As TheDude mentions, I'm not faithful to any one company.  I'll use whatever works.

If you feel that Lane 1 stuff is too expensive, don't buy it. That's how the free market system separates the wheat from the chaff.


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TheDude

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Re: Can you justify paying more for a Lane One ball?
« Reply #4 on: December 29, 2003, 12:48:25 AM »
Ok, for Mr bowling nut, lol. your really having a pissed off night cause i'm just trying here to have some constructive conversation. Relax, geez.

I haven't posted in the lane one forum, yes that is true but i do post occasionally, and have been a long time BR.COM member. I was speaking about the products in general.

Read my post with the view of an average customer's POV. I also posted this in the Dyno forum. I don't work for dynothane, for any ball company at the moment.
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MTFD24

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Re: Can you justify paying more for a Lane One ball?
« Reply #5 on: December 29, 2003, 01:02:38 AM »
The Dude, member since 3/28/02, and 3 posts prior to this evening. So close to 2 years can be considered a long time, and I guess 3 posts up til tonite would be considered "occasional".

Now why would anyone keep beating that poor dead horse? Even his hooves are gone, and in someone's Jello.

Now, who likes to create nonsense, and hasn't been on at this time of nite in awhile? Any takers?
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Re: Can you justify paying more for a Lane One ball?
« Reply #6 on: December 29, 2003, 01:03:38 AM »
First of all, can ANYONE justify ANY price for ANY ball??!!  The value of something is only as much as someone is WILLING  to pay for it, just the same as a car.  As for me, I can justify paying what I do for my Saws because I like them, and they have treated me well.  Bottom line, there is not much, if anything, that is truely worth what some companies charge for their product.

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Re: Can you justify paying more for a Lane One ball?
« Reply #7 on: December 29, 2003, 01:05:34 AM »
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Even his hooves are gone, and in someone's Jello.


Do they really use horse hooves in Jello?  No wonder why I like it so much...
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TheDude

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Re: Can you justify paying more for a Lane One ball?
« Reply #8 on: December 29, 2003, 01:12:13 AM »
LMAO, 3 posts????

no no no, lol that is the wrong The dude, lol my name is all one word. lol i have 404 posts and have been a member since 11/22/01.


 never paid for that gold membership thing, but i actually won a lane one ball from this site like last june-ish. Ask leftside, i talk to him on a regular basis too.
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TheDude

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Re: Can you justify paying more for a Lane One ball?
« Reply #9 on: December 29, 2003, 01:20:52 AM »
And actually i'm not trying to beat a dead horse, i'm just wondering some comments from Lane one users. and i like the comment saw mill's comments about paying what you feel is just. But companies usually have to be competitve with pricing to survive, example wal-mart. get the same box of Tide there for 1.40$ less than the super market. I have no problem with using a bag filled entirely with mid line balls either.
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MTFD24

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Re: Can you justify paying more for a Lane One ball?
« Reply #10 on: December 29, 2003, 01:21:29 AM »
So sorry....I forgot the one word thing, or is it the Canuck thing...like...go roond aboot the hoose and shoot the puck in da net A? J/K
(I played Jr B in Stamford Ontario)
But please, let this poor horse rest in peace, now his meat is in dog food, he has made Elmer's Glue, and Jello too....let him be, PLEASE.
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TheDude

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Re: Can you justify paying more for a Lane One ball?
« Reply #11 on: December 29, 2003, 01:25:25 AM »
lol ok ok i will let the topic die but to me it honestly doesn't justify the price of a ball. i only used dynothane as an example and that reading the dynothane forum motivated me to write about it. as for mr bowl nut's comments, he can't say every non buzzsaw is crap. what about roto grip? I think Brunswick products aren't bad either.
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Re: Can you justify paying more for a Lane One ball?
« Reply #12 on: December 29, 2003, 01:29:52 AM »
Saw Mill has a sensable explaination and I agree with him.......And Dude, this subject has been beat to death on this site and then some. Therefore, I am not going to let you drag me into defending against the bashing people like you give Lane 1. This is the only response I am going to make under this topic. Dude, buy any ball you want. We could care less what you buy and what you like.

Gosh almighty, stop beating a dead horse that has already been beat to death again and again, over and over, etc. "Geezz man, get a life."


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Re: Can you justify paying more for a Lane One ball?
« Reply #13 on: December 29, 2003, 02:05:48 AM »
dear dude.who cares what you use--if folk want to buy a buzzsaw so be it.if they want to buy a dynothane thats fine by me too.pls go to dynothanes forum and bore them.

why do folk pay 250k for a bentley when they can buy a ford for 18k????
they both have four wheels and get you to your destination,but if you have the money and you want the bentley,good for you....i got seed balls from most companies,but i have had great results using buzzsaws,even though i have to pay for them.i'm sure no one is really interested in my results but i believe in this country(not mine),freedom of choice prevails.
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Saw Mill

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Re: Can you justify paying more for a Lane One ball?
« Reply #14 on: December 29, 2003, 02:16:03 AM »
Yeah, I'll take another Cherry Bomb!!

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