Post by: TheDude on December 28, 2003, 09:03:09 AM
Ok, understand a ball company can have a following but it doesn't make sense to over charge just for a particular core shape over any other. The Diamond shape core is yes a "proven" core but so is the standard pancake and lightbulb styles ones too.
Lane 1 made in brunswick factory, ok that is a well known fact. Another well known fact, Dynothane is made in the storm factory. So why do you listen when the company uses that as an excuse to explain why there prices are higher than other average high end releases. With there own actual tour staff( dynothane has, Lane one does not), with new cover designs( soaker), and lane one using brunswick covers and there special pattend Diamond core. Logically i can explain spending more on a dynothane ball that a comparabley priced ball from example : storm. But in fact there priced slightly lower than high end releases from storm.
IF you think for a few minutes using your business caps. The dynothane profit margins are likely lower per ball than Lane One's is. They have to deal with the middle man( manufactuers) to get the product to your proshop too. So does lane one but they charge everyone below them in the supply chain more. To me it doesn't make sense to charge more. Dynothane's balls and business practices to me make alot more sense than lane one's. That is why i can easily justify buying a dyno ball over a Lane one ball any day.
Dynothane= Very Good Product, at better than market prices.
Lane 1= Good Product that gets rehashed, at unreasonable prices.
If a company like track for example used the Morpheus core in all it's balls as it's basis for there core design what would you think? Little stale? Don't ya say? Balls are honestly not as well marketed by lane one as Dynothane's are. Although i do love the flash video music to Lane 1's site( gooooo TCM!!!) and dynothane does have any flash graphics. ( Tony, lol how bout some cool bowling vids, it's all the crazy in the Lane one forums
) Just two cents from a former proshop operator that would rather drill and sell a customer a ball from Dyno than Lane 1.
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Post by: mrbowlingnut on December 29, 2003, 12:14:39 AM
I have a two game anomaly i will sell you or anyone else for 90.00
shipped so if this ball is better thn lane one balls and it is so great
how come me and a former team usa coach say it is pure junk. I am sure my current pba coach and i are idiots and cannot use this great piece of core/coverstock combo that is hyped and neither of us cannot make it recover from wide shots with 7 releases between two bowlers. The v2 strong i had there on the same shot is easily 10 boards stronger so is the anomaly a great ball or just junk huh i wonder?????? Btw i have never sold a buzzsaw for under 50.00 bucks even two drilled so you do get your money back in an equal price to resale amount. But i am sure you will know better than me and my coach that dynothane is farly superior to us crappy bowlers. So dont freeze too much in canada and have a nice day and happy holidays to you and yours DUDE
Post by: MTFD24 on December 29, 2003, 12:24:57 AM
2nd, I am not, and never will have a Lane 1 ball in my hand (personal reasons that a few know), but it is not due to price.
3rd, before everyone that enjoys Lane 1 replies, even in defense, remember that by doing so you fall right into what The Dude wants, to rile your feathers.
Lastly, it seems amazing that The Dude has been here for quite sometime, and yet, until today only had 1 or 2 posts, now all of a sudden out of the woodwork and into the Lane 1 debates. And now PJ is quiet....Hmmmm
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Post by: janderson on December 29, 2003, 12:26:24 AM
I'm not for or against Lane 1 products. As TheDude mentions, I'm not faithful to any one company. I'll use whatever works.
If you feel that Lane 1 stuff is too expensive, don't buy it. That's how the free market system separates the wheat from the chaff.
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Post by: TheDude on December 29, 2003, 12:48:25 AM
I haven't posted in the lane one forum, yes that is true but i do post occasionally, and have been a long time BR.COM member. I was speaking about the products in general.
Read my post with the view of an average customer's POV. I also posted this in the Dyno forum. I don't work for dynothane, for any ball company at the moment.
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Post by: MTFD24 on December 29, 2003, 01:02:38 AM
Now why would anyone keep beating that poor dead horse? Even his hooves are gone, and in someone's Jello.
Now, who likes to create nonsense, and hasn't been on at this time of nite in awhile? Any takers?
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Post by: Saw Mill on December 29, 2003, 01:03:38 AM
Dave
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Post by: janderson on December 29, 2003, 01:05:34 AM
quote:
Even his hooves are gone, and in someone's Jello.
Do they really use horse hooves in Jello? No wonder why I like it so much...
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Post by: TheDude on December 29, 2003, 01:12:13 AM
no no no, lol that is the wrong The dude, lol my name is all one word. lol i have 404 posts and have been a member since 11/22/01.
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Post by: TheDude on December 29, 2003, 01:20:52 AM
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Post by: MTFD24 on December 29, 2003, 01:21:29 AM
(I played Jr B in Stamford Ontario)
But please, let this poor horse rest in peace, now his meat is in dog food, he has made Elmer's Glue, and Jello too....let him be, PLEASE.
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Post by: TheDude on December 29, 2003, 01:25:25 AM
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Post by: Brickguy221 on December 29, 2003, 01:29:52 AM
Gosh almighty, stop beating a dead horse that has already been beat to death again and again, over and over, etc. "Geezz man, get a life."
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Post by: scottie on December 29, 2003, 02:05:48 AM
why do folk pay 250k for a bentley when they can buy a ford for 18k????
they both have four wheels and get you to your destination,but if you have the money and you want the bentley,good for you....i got seed balls from most companies,but i have had great results using buzzsaws,even though i have to pay for them.i'm sure no one is really interested in my results but i believe in this country(not mine),freedom of choice prevails.
next time you give away a cherry bomb,email me first.
Post by: Saw Mill on December 29, 2003, 02:16:03 AM
Dave
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If You Are Not Using a BuzzSaw, All You Get is SAW-dusted!!
Post by: charlest on December 29, 2003, 06:28:19 AM
Lane#1 users are NOT complaining about the price and the ones who are complaining about the price of Lane#1 balls are not Lane#1 users.
End of story.
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Post by: JOE FALCO on December 29, 2003, 07:23:55 AM
quote:
hi,
I have a two game anomaly i will sell you or anyone else for 90.00
shipped
i have never sold a buzzsaw for under 50.00 bucks even two drilled so you do get your money back in an equal price to resale amount.
MRBOWLINGNUT: You make these two statements .. the ANOMALY sells at BLOCKBUSTERS (undrilled for $134 .. most LANE 1 balls are $160 (undrilled) .. Why you asking so much for ANOMALY .. I'll give you $50 for your ANOMALY (delivered)!
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Post by: brimar on December 29, 2003, 07:25:33 AM
I also think if you saw some PBA victories with lane 1 stuff you wouldnt hear this debate so much.
Why do people pay so much more for sony TV's than most others?
And for someone to say a ball companies stuff is trash now thats just ignorant. ITs a ball. its round. Certain products are going to match up better to ones game than others.
So would i buy a buzzsaw? i dont know, i wont say never.
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Post by: A_P_K on December 29, 2003, 10:16:24 AM
I thought it was just me, but I guess not. I saw this topic on the side of the road last night in the form of street pizza, like Charlest said if you're not in the market for a Buzzsaw don't even ask or bring this disaster back from the ashes.
I can justify paying the money for them, even if I say they don't work any better or worse than other equipment simply because PRICE IS NOT AN ISSUE PERIOD!
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Post by: jkiser01 on December 29, 2003, 10:20:45 AM
If I read about a ball and I think it fits into my game, I'm gonna buy it.. Period..
Just my 2 cents on this issue..
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Post by: brimar on December 29, 2003, 10:32:22 AM
I also still use a red alert (which i still love) and it has the powerkoil 18 cover so im familiar with that
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Post by: Brickguy221 on December 29, 2003, 11:48:47 AM
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Post by: brimar on December 29, 2003, 12:03:45 PM
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Post by: TheBowlingKid25 on December 29, 2003, 12:13:57 PM
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Post by: Brickguy221 on December 29, 2003, 12:22:33 PM
Golden Nugget $149 at DougsProShop@aol.com
Thats only $9 difference and not $40
Kid, always check the prices before you post.
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Post by: DrillLord on December 29, 2003, 12:34:10 PM
Lane #1 Golden Nugget from Doug $149 + $10 shipping = $159
Drilling with thumb slug and inserts from my local pro shop $32
Grand Total $159 + $30 = $189
My local pro shop does not carry Lane#1 merchandise so he does not charge me much for bringing him the balls to be drilled. I'm sure if I brought him a brunswick or Columbia ball to drill he would not be too happy with me.
Pro Shop Prices (drilling and tax included)
High End Products
Storm - $195
Columbia & Brunswick - $190
Ebonite - $185
I don't feel that Lane#1 balls cost me that much more than others. The only Lane#1 ball that I feel that I paid a little more for was the Super Carbide Bomb that cost me $230 drilled. But until I see a ball that will cut through the oil and react like the SCB I feel that the extra $40 is money well spent.
Jason
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Post by: nd300 on December 29, 2003, 01:00:16 PM
Anyway I agree with those who say that whatever works FOR ME is what's in my bag. I don't have two balls from the same equipment line.
So I guess the old saying "To each his own" applies in my case. If you're loyal to a certain equipment line and they work for you that's great. After all it's us against those little pins.
If you have several different equipment lines in your arsenal again so be it.
I personally have Lane#1,Morich,Storm,Ebonite,Brunswick and an old Faball in my arsenal. At times they've fit the lane conditions and allowed me to bowl to the best of my ability on that particular day.
All that I have to say on the price issue is this------
My Dad once told me" you're going to pay for quality". If you think the ball is that good and will fit your game then it's your call.
Good luck in your bowling-------------
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Post by: Brickguy221 on December 29, 2003, 01:26:18 PM
PS Don't call me kid
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LMAO Didn't mean to offend you. The "Junior" sort of threw me.
By the way, even Buddies have cheaper prices than Block Buster.
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Post by: TheDude on December 29, 2003, 02:00:39 PM
Either way, i'll let this dead subject die. i don't read this forum, as often as the rest.
Now i think i remember why. Geez, relax ppls.
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Post by: arcright7 on December 29, 2003, 02:48:21 PM
Post by: Brickguy221 on December 29, 2003, 04:17:39 PM
I see you throw mostly Brunswick Balls. For a nickname, how about something like:
Inferno Man
Smash/R Pro
Raging Pro
Raging Man
Igniter Man
Etc. Etc.
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Post by: Borincano on December 29, 2003, 05:03:47 PM
Post by: Bjaardker on December 29, 2003, 06:25:41 PM
I've used many other companies in the past Columbia, Ebonite, Track, Brunswick, none of them really moved me.
I was using a Solid particle (Ebonie Adrenaline) & Solid resin (Track Voodoo) from other companies last year, averaged 174.
I switched to a Solid Particle (Blue Carbide) & Solid resin (Pink Razz) from lane #1, I've been averaging 195-199 since the very first week I started using them.
I would simply be a fool not to spend an extra $20 for a ball that's proven to work for me.
You may not have the same results, but that's the nature of the sport.