Post by: bowlerdawg on January 20, 2009, 11:45:43 PM
i don't have any idea how to lay mine out
stacked drill has always worked good for me in the past, but this core is a little different for this ball
so im looking for your suggestions / ideas / actual layouts you have
thanks
Dawg
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Post by: FastTracker33 on January 21, 2009, 08:00:29 AM
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Post by: bowlerdawg on January 21, 2009, 08:04:22 AM
this ball is supposed to be for dry lanes, and i primarily want it for that i.e. 3rd game in a set, and tourneys
its going to have a 2" pin and 3 Oz. of top
me
16-17 mph
300 +/- RR
5 & 3/8 ^ PAP
i know its not going to be a big mover, but i want consistency, and control
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Post by: Sir Bowl-A-Lot on January 21, 2009, 08:10:07 AM
Post by: bowlerdawg on January 21, 2009, 08:44:49 AM
dont want that
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Post by: Deathclutch on January 21, 2009, 09:06:46 AM
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Post by: T-GOD on January 21, 2009, 10:03:05 AM
Post by: zeusjr on January 21, 2009, 04:36:10 PM
Smooth + control = 5x3 (CG out)
Little more Power = Stacked
I went with Stacked...
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Post by: HAMBONE on January 21, 2009, 07:26:14 PM
I have taken his advice on a couple balls now
and ALWAYS RIGHT ON!!
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Post by: bowlerdawg on January 21, 2009, 08:02:58 PM
i had my session w/ Ron Clifton today, and he's teaching me how to bowl more correctly, and by doing so my specs/ stats have changed dramatically
my speed and revs are WAYYYYYYYYYY up from what i listed
i was amazed how much I changed just during our short time together
its like i got a new toy
my pap changed, my axis tilt changed, easy 2-3 more mph, and i venture to say im about 400 rr now
i really dont know how much layouts play a role in the grand scheme of things or im just making much a do about nothing
been a long day sorry to bable
balls coming off my hand like a scalded dawg
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Post by: Doug Sterner on January 21, 2009, 09:33:28 PM
The ball is super rolly and still carries the 10....I love it but think I am going to drill another pin up for more length.
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Post by: bowlerdawg on January 21, 2009, 09:41:31 PM
i have not had luck w/ a cg out layout before, but that could be different now
i also have never tried using a label drill
although i just punched my HRG label i have not used it yet to see the reaction
all i want is a consistent and controllable ball that has lenght
rest is up to me.........lol
quote:
I have my Chainsaw drilled pin under ring with cg kicked out 45* skinny deep weighthole on my VAL.
The ball is super rolly and still carries the 10....I love it but think I am going to drill another pin up for more length.
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Post by: Playmaker on January 22, 2009, 11:52:18 AM
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Post by: bestbudzs24 on January 27, 2009, 09:40:30 PM
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Post by: bowlerdawg on January 28, 2009, 06:42:59 AM
i told him i wanted it CG out
i have not received it yet, but it should come in CG out
im thinking label sucks
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Post by: AK47 on January 28, 2009, 09:44:20 AM
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i would definetly stay away from the label drilling. IMO its the worst drill you can put on a Lane 1 ball i would go with a stacked leverage drill they have always been money for me good luck with your new toy lol
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Maybe it's better to say that label doesn't work for you.... I have found great success with label drill on many lane #1 balls (Enriched Uranium, BCB, Pearl Uranium,Super Carbide Bomb, Carbide Plus, Evolution) i have all these balls drilled label and they work great! The only L#1 ball i drilled label and didn't like was the Buzzbomb. With that said, i'm going to drill my CS Stacked
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Post by: bowlerdawg on January 28, 2009, 09:56:15 AM
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im thinking label sucks
i tried it and no luck for me
stacked or mod rico or cg out from here on out
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Post by: Zef Olantar on January 28, 2009, 10:23:43 AM
Sounds like you're being tainted by others...
As I said in other forums before, label is better for people with more hand....it may not work for everyone, but in my experience, it works very well for MOST! Try a label layout with the pin 2" from your PAP....you won't believe the control and reaction you get with this layout.....Hmmmmm, sure sounds like everyone just likes stacked and CG out because it gives them more HOOK!
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Post by: Doug Sterner on January 28, 2009, 10:51:33 AM
The traditional label drill has the cg in the midlde of the grip (or close by) and the pin just outside the ring finger.
The suggestion of 2" pin to PAP is not what's typically considered as a label drill. There is a possibility that the 2" pin to PAP could indeed make a label drill if the bowler's PAP is closer to the grip than most.
My experience has been that label drilled Buzzsaws tend to like to be rolled as opposed to being thrown...aka strokers prefer the label layouts more than the guys with the big hand.
Again...just my experience...not an absolute answer or anything ...just some experience.
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Post by: bowlerdawg on January 28, 2009, 08:08:57 PM
i have very limited time w/ a label drill, and my hand was not in it
so i won't give up yet
learning to roll instead of chuck / throw
may have some affect on my game.........lol
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Post by: Playmaker on January 30, 2009, 01:59:25 PM
Very Predictable roll....
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