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jjweb

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Cobalt layout
« on: September 29, 2006, 07:28:59 AM »
So I'm getting my Cobalt Pearl Pin above and between the fingers, and the MB (I know it's a symmetrical core) at 40 degrees.

As per my coach's recommendation.

Anybody have one drilled like that, what kind of reaction do you get?

Thanks!
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jjweb

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Re: Cobalt layout
« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2006, 11:08:05 PM »
Anybody use the layout above?
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Re: Cobalt layout
« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2006, 07:45:42 AM »
mines drillrd semi-pin-axis...  Great ball, I'm sure the drilling your gona use will have a much stronger backend then mine...
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Re: Cobalt layout
« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2006, 01:41:03 PM »
jj,

do you intend to use that ball on fairly dry oil patterns?
For an admittedly "low rev stroker", that's a very long pin distance, especially for a ball that gets this much natural length.

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Re: Cobalt layout
« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2006, 11:53:01 AM »
My Cobalt is drilled Pin above and between the fingers, and mine is close to 40 degrees..  Mine has a 3 inch pin and a balance hole just above the center of my grip.  I had struggled as of late with the reaction, leaving pocket 7-10's, washouts, ringing 10's...  That was standing at 30 shooting across 15 out to 7 or 8 board and thrashing back to the pocket.  With that line, if I pulled it a little that is where it would just ride the oil down and not quite make it back, leaving the washouts..  Last week I tried a different approach and was quite pleased!  Standing 25, shooting 12 at the arrows, basically playing less of a swing and more of an arc shot!  After a 479 last Friday, I shot a 606 this past Wednesday and decided to shoot the same shot on Friday and was rewarded with this decision after games of 231, 258, and 258 for my all time highest series of a 747...  Yes, that layout is working for me!! Good Luck to you!!


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jjweb

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Re: Cobalt layout
« Reply #5 on: October 01, 2006, 04:19:41 PM »
I was worried about the pin being so high going too far down lane, simply because I have never had a ball with a pin above and between the fingers.

Let me see If I can give you an idea of the condition. My Passion is really too strong but carries the best, and I usually have to play really deep to keep it in play. The Paradigm rolls out on the back or checks up too soon, leaving zero energy for any type of backend movement. Then again it's mostly do to it's drilling and surface prep (it's good when playing between the oil and dry), and my Ravage hooks about 2-3' too soon.

I don't have anything that gives me continuous movement, other then my Passion and again that moves way too soon.

I'm not playing on a super dry pattern or a med-heavy, just right in between the two.
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Re: Cobalt layout
« Reply #6 on: October 01, 2006, 04:26:59 PM »
If that's the situation, jjweb, then this ball might just work. You will get length. Good luck.
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jjweb

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Re: Cobalt layout
« Reply #7 on: October 01, 2006, 04:37:06 PM »
Oh I have a feeling this ball will work, it's a matter of the drill working for it.
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jjweb

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Re: Cobalt layout
« Reply #8 on: October 01, 2006, 09:21:01 PM »
On what I described above, what would you recommend as a better drill pattern?
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Re: Cobalt layout
« Reply #9 on: October 01, 2006, 09:49:58 PM »
Thats all I have my balls laid out as - pin up. I am a pin up kind of guy that needs length and then a left turn towards that pocket. For this perticular ball, I believe this will be a great layout for you.
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jjweb

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Re: Cobalt layout
« Reply #10 on: October 01, 2006, 09:57:30 PM »
I'm not supposed to have it snap, only a heavy roll on the backend (that's what my coach wants).

I feel a little different, If it's a strong ball then I should drill it as such and see it's true characteristics. If it already has all of this built in length, then why do I really need to help it along?

By all means I have no problem creating length with my release, In fact it does get me into trouble sometimes.
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Re: Cobalt layout
« Reply #11 on: October 01, 2006, 10:12:57 PM »
Drill it label 1:30, and you will have a smooth arc with great continuation.
I have never been disappointed with this drill on any of my saws.
I drilled my Cobalt solid with the pin down and CG out, but I am seriosly considering adding a seconf Cobalt solid drilled label 1:30.
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Re: Cobalt layout
« Reply #12 on: October 01, 2006, 10:39:39 PM »
My daughters is drilled up simillar to what you are asking except the pin is above the ring finger and Cg is swung right about 1-1 1/4 inches she gets good length as long as she has oil once the shot dries up it gets really squirley she plays it up the lane with a slight swing standing on about the 15-17 board and playing 10-8 on the lanes.
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Re: Cobalt layout
« Reply #13 on: October 02, 2006, 06:40:14 AM »
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I'm not supposed to have it snap, only a heavy roll on the backend (that's what my coach wants).

I feel a little different, If it's a strong ball then I should drill it as such and see it's true characteristics. If it already has all of this built in length, then why do I really need to help it along?

By all means I have no problem creating length with my release, In fact it does get me into trouble sometimes.
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Ok, make up your mind. YOur original drill is for length and for playing a deep inside line or for really dry lanes or for a high rev cranker.

A med rev guy is not, in general, going to get a "heavy roll on the backend" with that drill UNLESS there's LOTS of dry and then only after LOTS of length,

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jjweb

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Re: Cobalt layout
« Reply #14 on: October 02, 2006, 01:38:11 PM »
lane1who, I do track low.

PAP: 4 3/4 accross -- 11/16 up

I forgot I recored myself a couple of weeks ago in practice, I'll try and get the video up to give you an idea.
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