Post by: jjweb on September 29, 2006, 07:28:59 AM
As per my coach's recommendation.
Anybody have one drilled like that, what kind of reaction do you get?
Thanks!
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Post by: jjweb on September 29, 2006, 11:08:05 PM
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Post by: zeusjr on September 30, 2006, 07:45:42 AM
Post by: charlest on September 30, 2006, 01:41:03 PM
do you intend to use that ball on fairly dry oil patterns?
For an admittedly "low rev stroker", that's a very long pin distance, especially for a ball that gets this much natural length.
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Post by: bobbabouy66 on October 01, 2006, 11:53:01 AM
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Post by: jjweb on October 01, 2006, 04:19:41 PM
Let me see If I can give you an idea of the condition. My Passion is really too strong but carries the best, and I usually have to play really deep to keep it in play. The Paradigm rolls out on the back or checks up too soon, leaving zero energy for any type of backend movement. Then again it's mostly do to it's drilling and surface prep (it's good when playing between the oil and dry), and my Ravage hooks about 2-3' too soon.
I don't have anything that gives me continuous movement, other then my Passion and again that moves way too soon.
I'm not playing on a super dry pattern or a med-heavy, just right in between the two.
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Post by: charlest on October 01, 2006, 04:26:59 PM
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Post by: jjweb on October 01, 2006, 04:37:06 PM
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Post by: jjweb on October 01, 2006, 09:21:01 PM
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Post by: Xfest on October 01, 2006, 09:49:58 PM
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Post by: jjweb on October 01, 2006, 09:57:30 PM
I feel a little different, If it's a strong ball then I should drill it as such and see it's true characteristics. If it already has all of this built in length, then why do I really need to help it along?
By all means I have no problem creating length with my release, In fact it does get me into trouble sometimes.
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Post by: novawagonmaster on October 01, 2006, 10:12:57 PM
I have never been disappointed with this drill on any of my saws.
I drilled my Cobalt solid with the pin down and CG out, but I am seriosly considering adding a seconf Cobalt solid drilled label 1:30.
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Post by: Rabiddog135 on October 01, 2006, 10:39:39 PM
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Original SD(X2,NIB),
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Post by: charlest on October 02, 2006, 06:40:14 AM
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I'm not supposed to have it snap, only a heavy roll on the backend (that's what my coach wants).
I feel a little different, If it's a strong ball then I should drill it as such and see it's true characteristics. If it already has all of this built in length, then why do I really need to help it along?
By all means I have no problem creating length with my release, In fact it does get me into trouble sometimes.
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Ok, make up your mind. YOur original drill is for length and for playing a deep inside line or for really dry lanes or for a high rev cranker.
A med rev guy is not, in general, going to get a "heavy roll on the backend" with that drill UNLESS there's LOTS of dry and then only after LOTS of length,
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Edited on 10/2/2006 7:56 AM
Post by: jjweb on October 02, 2006, 01:38:11 PM
PAP: 4 3/4 accross -- 11/16 up
I forgot I recored myself a couple of weeks ago in practice, I'll try and get the video up to give you an idea.
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Post by: zeusjr on October 02, 2006, 09:08:02 PM
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Drill it label 1:30, and you will have a smooth arc with great continuation. I have never been disappointed with this drill on any of my saws.
I've had just the opposite, I've had about zero luck with this drilling. But I see lots of people using it so I guess it's just not for me.
Post by: T-GOD on October 03, 2006, 09:15:42 AM
Post by: jjweb on October 03, 2006, 06:08:52 PM
Any thoughts?
I'm trying to fix my stupid video camera.
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Edited on 10/3/2006 6:01 PM
Post by: novawagonmaster on October 03, 2006, 07:43:32 PM
quote:quote:
Drill it label 1:30, and you will have a smooth arc with great continuation. I have never been disappointed with this drill on any of my saws.
I've had just the opposite, I've had about zero luck with this drilling. But I see lots of people using it so I guess it's just not for me.
It very well could be a personal thing. I am a high tracking stroker. I have this drill (Label 1:30) on a Black Cherry Bomb (3" pin), Army Green Carbide Bomb (3.5" pin), Uranium Pearl (4" pin), Gold Nugget (4" pin), Bullet (4" pin), and XXXL (3" pin). I am having my second Super Carbide Bomb drilled this way also (3.5" pin).
The BCB, and the Army Green flare like mad! The Uranium pearl is not far behind. While the reactions are very strong, they are also very controllable. It is a strong arc, not a violent squirt.
The above results are from my experiences. That being said, it is not uncommon to get a as many different answers to this sort of question as you do people answering it.
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Post by: zeusjr on October 03, 2006, 09:17:26 PM
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Zues, this drilling works best with shorter pins, i.e. 1-2". Maybe you've used this layout with longer pins, which is why you haven't had much success..? =:^D
I've had maybe 3-4 different balls drilled this was short and longer PINs it just doesn't work for me....
Post by: zeusjr on October 03, 2006, 09:21:54 PM
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The above results are from my experiences. That being said, it is not uncommon to get a as many different answers to this sort of question as you do people answering it.
Like you said, it works good for you. But works good for you doesn't always work good for me. And I'm sure there's stuff I have that wouldn't do a thing for you. It's all your personal preferance. So I guess the best thing to do is consult your driller and talk over what works best for your style...
Post by: jjweb on October 04, 2006, 10:23:28 AM
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Post by: Rabiddog135 on October 04, 2006, 06:23:15 PM
had two HDBs,a Bcb, and a few others layed out label and they just would not move for me.
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Don Smith
F.O.S. To The Bone
Cobalt (X1),Tsunami (X1`),Pearl Uranium,XXXL
Buzzsaw C/Carbide,XXL
thats just what I carry
Cobalt Bomb (NIB),BCB(X2-1 NIB),
Original SD(X2,NIB),
Golden Nugget,
Pearl Cherry Bomb (X3-1NIB 1 is 16Lb)
SCB,
H2O,
Pink Raspberry (X1-16Lb)
Black raspberry(X1-16Lb)
And Always Looking For More
Post by: jjweb on October 06, 2006, 10:39:03 PM
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