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charlest

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Fire Quantum vs SiIver Diamond
« on: August 02, 2003, 06:13:21 AM »
The most interesting thing happened. I got the general core specs for the Fire Quantum from Brunswick and I purchased an FQ from EBay and drilled it. I was curious about its reaction. When I calculated the actual RG and RG Diff from Brunswick's relative numbers, it struck me that the FQ's core specifications are very close to the Silver Diamonds. Fascinating!

Both covers are pearlized Power Koil 18.

Silver Diamond:
15 lbs
RG Max: 2.555
Rg Min: 2.527
RG Diff:  .028

Fire Quantum: (relatively rough calculations)
RG Max:  2.575
RG Min:  2.543
RG Diff:  .032

Hmmmmm ....

Addendum:
Let me draw your attention to the overall similarity of the Quantum mushroom core to the Lane#1 diamond core, in so far as their X and Y axis symmetry. Both seem to have/had an incredible ability to "rev up" in the midlane, while having a medium RG and not a low RG core, and both having a relatively low RG Differential, but yet generally both ball lines act more like they have a large RG Differential and a lot of flare. This applies to most (but not all) Lane#1 and Quantum cores.

Curious.

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Re: Fire Quantum vs SiIver Diamond
« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2003, 11:28:27 PM »
Charlest, the Fire Quantum was an excellent ball for me when I used to have one. Since the Blueberry Buzzsaw I purchased a couple weeks ago has turned out to be one of the better balls I have ever had, I'm wanting to try another Buzzsaw. To sum it up, does this mean that if I would drill the Silver Diamond similiar to how I had the Quantum drilled, that I could expect a similiar reaction from it?
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charlest

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Re: Fire Quantum vs SiIver Diamond
« Reply #2 on: August 02, 2003, 11:35:31 PM »
I'd suspect so. I was not trying to make a joke with htis post; maybe more draw in some opinions.

When I had an SD, I had it drilled label, but at that time, about 3 or 4 years ago, I had no experience with a Fire Quantum. In those 3 - 4 years, I have changed a lot; so, I can't draw a direct comparison. While I'd be the last to tell you not to buy an SD, FQ are significantly cheaper on EBay (with all the cautions that entails).

The other item that I had want to address, I will add to the original post:
the overall similarity of the Quantum mushroom core to the Lane#1 diamond, in so far as its overall symmetry.
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Re: Fire Quantum vs SiIver Diamond
« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2003, 04:20:31 PM »
I just received a Fire Quantum NIB from Pin_Krusher (thanks P_K!), which I think came by way of charlest.  I have been using Lane 1 almost exclusively (except for the RG Fuel) and wasn't sure I even wanted to drill the Fire up but Pin_Krusher made me a deal I couldn't refuse.  My Silver Diamond is drilled pin 4 1/4" from PAP with a 105 degree layout, which is on the weaker side.  My Cherry Bomb is drilled pin 4 1/4" from PAP with a 45 degree layout.  I decided to drill the Fire with the pin 4" from PAP with a 70 degree layout to see what the stronger drill would do.  WOW!  I really like the way this ball rolls and hits.  As a matter of fact I have replaced the Cherry Bomb with this ball!  I don't know if it's the drill pattern or what but the Fire gives me more area on the lane and the drill gives me a stronger backend than the CB.  It could also be that the Cherry Bomb has seen it's best days and needs an Ebonite Hook Again fix!  The SD is about 4 to 5 boards weaker all around than the Fire.  If I want to play a straighter line, up the boards then the SD is my ball of choice.  If I need to move left and play deep, the Fire is my choice.  With the drill on the SD I can't play deep with it.  Take care....JS

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Re: Fire Quantum vs SiIver Diamond
« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2003, 05:35:39 PM »
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I just received a Fire Quantum NIB from Pin_Krusher (thanks P_K!), which I think came by way of charlest.


Ah, the circle of life continues ...
Glad someone got some use out of this/that ball.

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I have been using Lane 1 almost exclusively (except for the RG Fuel) and wasn't sure I even wanted to drill the Fire up but Pin_Krusher made me a deal I couldn't refuse.  My Silver Diamond is drilled pin 4 1/4" from PAP with a 105 degree layout, which is on the weaker side.  My Cherry Bomb is drilled pin 4 1/4" from PAP with a 45 degree layout.  I decided to drill the Fire with the pin 4" from PAP with a 70 degree layout to see what the stronger drill would do.  WOW!  I really like the way this ball rolls and hits.  As a matter of fact I have replaced the Cherry Bomb with this ball!  


Not surprising at all. I drilled mine with pin over the ring finger and CG in the negative quadrant: kind of a 105 degree with 5"+ pin position. I was pleasantly surprised at how strong this ball is also.

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I don't know if it's the drill pattern or what but the Fire gives me more area on the lane and the drill gives me a stronger backend than the CB.  It could also be that the Cherry Bomb has seen it's best days and needs an Ebonite Hook Again fix!  The SD is about 4 to 5 boards weaker all around than the Fire.


I am not 100% sure about the covers for the SD & the FQ, but, while they are both definitely PK 18, I suspect the SD is sanded finer than the FQ with a lightly higher gloss polish.

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  If I want to play a straighter line, up the boards then the SD is my ball of choice.  If I need to move left and play deep, the Fire is my choice.  With the drill on the SD I can't play deep with it.  Take care....JS


I suspect you have 2 very nice go-to combinations there. When the FQ starts hooking too much, the SD comes right in and takes over.
Good hitting power from both also.

Good Luck.

Pin Krusher, you gave away a great ball, but you have many more!

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