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Jeffrevs

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More on the Silver Diamond
« on: January 15, 2004, 04:21:32 PM »
WOW!
Went out with the little Mrs. last night to throw a few and because I don't have ton of games on it, so I took the Silver Diamond w/ me.  Now, before you think I have more hand than pchee2, I must preface this by saying that I was at a local house the has more "free hook"  than anything I've everseen! (thats the term king of the mill uses for the house where his pro-shop is! he stopped by to say hi as he went home) It's got backend baby!! I mean UNBELIEVABLE backend!!  The lanes we were on had not been used for league, so we had a fresh shot too.....even Mrs Revs said, ...WOW, "they're movin'"

Well, I proceeded to stand 25 (w/ my left foot, starting foot) hit 11-12 at the arrows....out to about 3 at the break point (45+ ft.) and back!!  PLUS, I had room for error too.  I sent a couple right to the brink and down to 50 and it still came back !?!?!?  If I missed inside, it would hold, and as long as my speed was there, BOOM!    WOWZA ! It was almost NOT fair!

Now.......I'm going to assume right now that last nightwas a combination of:
1. me (my new style, I was throwing/releasing the ball real nice last night, almost a totally normal track!)  
2. The enormous / ridiculous lane conditions
3. The Silver Diamond and the PowrKoil 18 !!
(silver drilled about 4x4 HOWEVER, 4.5" pin out, so the cg is down just about next to my thumb with a thumb quadrant axis hole.)

These 3 things are NOT necessarily in that order ......however....I'm really starting to admire my SD !!!  A LOT!

Here is the question?  If I got another one (nib,...mine is used)...would it be as strong ?  I was wondering if the pin out on this ball and the drill aren't helping it do what it does ?  They say the SD is long and strong....well it's certainly STRONG, but long ??????  This, for me, the way this ball is, is more of a medium to medium heavy ball.  Hhmmmm

Discuss............
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charlest

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Re: More on the Silver Diamond
« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2004, 08:30:13 AM »
UNLESS you sanded it (did you?), it is not a medium-heavy oil ball. It's  amedium-light to medium oil ball. 4x4 is a moderately to very-close-to-max'd-out strong dilling. The cover is highly polished and the flare is small.

Discount all impressions based on that oil pattern. "Free hook" is a good, but I think the term "funnel bowling" is more accurate based on what you describe. So, you should be able to average 225 on a shot like that.
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T-GOD

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Re: More on the Silver Diamond
« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2004, 08:34:04 AM »
quote:
well it's certainly STRONG, but long ??????
This ball goes long on the oil, but strong on the dry. So, if you're getting it to the dry early, it's going to hook early. Keeping the ball in the oil will keep the ball long. This ball doesn't go long in the dry. =:^D
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Jeffrevs

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Re: More on the Silver Diamond
« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2004, 08:34:21 AM »
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UNLESS you sanded it (did you?), it is not a medium-heavy oil ball. It's  amedium-light to medium oil ball. 4x4 is a moderately to very-close-to-max'd-out strong dilling. The cover is highly polished and the flare is small.


charlest, yes I did, I wet burg. scotch brite, then hit it with 2 coats of ReNew it, so it's got teeth underneath!  Sorry I did leave that out. Remember, I did this for my last mixed league session (exxon valdez house!). Since then I've added the 2 coats of Renew it.  That is probably why I'm seeing it being able to handle more oil!

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Discount all impressions based on that oil pattern. "Free hook" is a good, but I think the term "funnel bowling" is more accurate based on what you describe. So, you should be able to average 225 on a shot like that.


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Jeffrevs

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Re: More on the Silver Diamond
« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2004, 08:35:23 AM »
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This ball doesn't go long in the dry. =:^D


AMEN brotha !
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seadrive

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« Reply #5 on: January 16, 2004, 11:56:55 AM »
Hey Jeff, mind if I trample on your thread a bit?

I've been working on playing lines and angles, using the info from Ritger's tape #2, so I've got a bunch of "stand here, release there, hit that" stuff going around in my head.

You said, "I proceeded to stand 25 (w/ my left foot, starting foot) hit 15 at the arrows....out to about 3 at the break point (48 ft.) and back!!"  I'm trying to figure out how that can be.

15 board to 3 board is 12 boards, over approx. 30 feet, so if the ball pretty much went straight between the arrows and the breakpoint, then your laydown point would be around 21.  Add 7 boards for the distance between your laydown point and your sliding foot, and you're sliding 28.

According to Ritger, you move 2 boards on the approach for every board of swing between the laydown point and your mark at the arrows, and you further move your heel an additional 1/3-1/2 board.  So, by a Ritger calculation, if you walk absolutely straight (no drift, either left or right), to play the 21-15 angle, you would stand with the inside of the front of your shoe on 34, and swing your heel so it's on 36.

That's a full 9 boards left of where you say you were standing.  Do you drift 9 boards to the left?

I'm not trying to bust your chops, just trying to talk a little bit about playing angles, which helps me get all this crap straight in my head.
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T-GOD

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Re: More on the Silver Diamond
« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2004, 12:01:07 PM »
Sea, I was also thinking/came to the conclusion that, Jeff drifts roughly 10 boards after reading his post. =:^D



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Jeffrevs

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Re: More on the Silver Diamond
« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2004, 12:07:02 PM »
sorry guys, you lost me........I don't drift at all......maybe I'm missing something
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seadrive

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« Reply #8 on: January 16, 2004, 12:12:11 PM »
Jeff, if you stand 25, and you don't drift left, there's no way in hell you could hit 15 at the arrows, and 3 at the breakpoint, unless you're doing some weird contortions at the foul line.

Look over the numbers I posted above, and think about it.

My guess is that your breakpoint was actually a few boards left of 3, and you do drift a few boards to the left, without realizing it.
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Jeffrevs

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Re: More on the Silver Diamond
« Reply #9 on: January 16, 2004, 01:31:01 PM »
OK, I think I see it now.......and I think I was wrong in my original....I think I was laying down more like 16, 12 at the arrows, and down to the break..that sounds / feels better.

Thanks seadrive, T-GOD, I was talkin' out my patoot !
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