O.K. Thanks for the responses, one last thing. Sawuser, the layout you mentioned is just what I have in mind for the E.U. just clear up where I want the C.G.(diamond label or center punch) of the ball in relation to my center of grip. Should I put it in the center of my palm or kicked out toward my PAP. If you could just let me know the difference(s) I may see between the two. Thanks.