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Equipment Boards => Lane #1 => Topic started by: Den Olano on December 17, 2009, 08:51:08 AM

Title: Dry Lane Ball
Post by: Den Olano on December 17, 2009, 08:51:08 AM
Which is better for drier lane conditions H2o or Chainsaw?  

Title: Re: Dry Lane Ball
Post by: pro shop guy on December 17, 2009, 04:58:14 PM
H2O if you can get your hands on one....In my opinion that is.
Title: Re: Dry Lane Ball
Post by: Bluff on December 17, 2009, 05:11:11 PM
h2o

2nd that
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Title: Re: Dry Lane Ball
Post by: No Revs00300 on December 17, 2009, 08:08:14 PM
Chainsaw.
Title: Re: Dry Lane Ball
Post by: urbanj51 on December 17, 2009, 08:10:56 PM
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Chainsaw.


+1.  A lot weaker ball so you can play many more lines and use way longer.  And easier to control on the dry.
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Title: Re: Dry Lane Ball
Post by: bestbudzs24 on December 17, 2009, 10:36:52 PM
i would hardly consider a H2O a dry lane ball. IMO its a true medium ball. the chainsaw is alot weaker and doesn't react violently to the dry. get the chainsaw.
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Title: Re: Dry Lane Ball
Post by: Roy Munson on December 17, 2009, 10:41:56 PM
Chainsaw and Pearl Viper
Title: Re: Dry Lane Ball
Post by: killpins on December 17, 2009, 11:01:41 PM
for really dry the H2O is not good.
Title: Re: Dry Lane Ball
Post by: No Revs00300 on December 18, 2009, 12:33:54 AM
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H2O if you can get your hands on one....In my opinion that is.


You own a pro shop and you would recommend a H2O over a chainsaw for dry lanes? I am glad I'm not a customer of yours.
Title: Re: Dry Lane Ball
Post by: Den Olano on December 18, 2009, 05:48:07 AM
5 for Chainsaw and 2 for H2o. Anyone else that has thrown both these balls care to chime in.
Title: Re: Dry Lane Ball
Post by: Roy Munson on December 18, 2009, 08:51:42 AM

Read this article first: http://www.kegel.net/library/foArticles.asp?iKodYazi=34

Then compare the RG Differentials:

................ RG Differential @ 15lbs                
Chainsaw      0.013
Pearl Viper      0.020
XXXL         0.028
H20                     0.030
Title: Re: Dry Lane Ball
Post by: triggerman on December 18, 2009, 09:09:16 AM
Chainsaw is the best option of the two you posted
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Title: Re: Dry Lane Ball
Post by: Doug Sterner on December 18, 2009, 11:55:31 AM
Den,

My opinion here may not be the most popular you will hear. Both balls have their place on the drier side however they are distinctly different.

H2O is a pearl, Chainsaw is a solid
H2O is a mild asymmetrical ball, Chainsaw is a symmetrical ball
Core designs are distinctly different.
Coverstock manufacturers are different.

Now here's the kicker.....

If you want a ball that will go long, roll and not flip then the Chainsaw is the ball.

If you want a ball that will get long and then have a stronger backend reaction, the H2O is a better option.

If you have a strong release, the Chainsaw will work better.
If you have a weaker release, the H2O will fit the bill.

In short,the Chainsaw is a weaker ball but I found my Chainsaw to be too early on true drier lanes. This led to a flat hit and horrible carry.

The H2O may very well be stronger but it can be made to go longer than the Chainsaw and it will finish and carry better as well.
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Title: Re: Dry Lane Ball
Post by: Den Olano on December 18, 2009, 01:45:41 PM
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Chainsaw is the best option of the two you posted
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I am open to suggestions other balls than Lane 1 or within Lane 1 as well.
Title: Re: Dry Lane Ball
Post by: triggerman on December 18, 2009, 01:56:03 PM
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Chainsaw is the best option of the two you posted
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I am open to suggestions other balls than Lane 1 or within Lane 1 as well.


I use a global link in this slot, still not the weakest ball but when burnt up, its plenty long and has a ton on the backside, if i have to go below thta, then its plastic
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Title: Re: Dry Lane Ball
Post by: stormbowling300 on December 18, 2009, 07:24:06 PM
storm natural
Title: Re: Dry Lane Ball
Post by: T-GOD on December 18, 2009, 10:02:22 PM
The Chainsaw is probably the best dry lane reactive ball on the market. Not other ball has a diff that low, so it just glides through the heads. Load it up with finger and side and away you go.

The H2O will definitely start its hook sooner. =:^D
Title: Re: Dry Lane Ball
Post by: Den Olano on December 19, 2009, 07:50:45 AM
I threw a Chainsaw last night that a friend of mine had. We have similar drilling specs so I was fairly comfortable thowing it. I did have excellant length and was not snapping on the back end. It made a smooth move which is what I am looking for. Where I am bowling by the middle of the 1st game the heads are so dry that it is almost impossible to get the length I need to play in an area I am comfortable with and able to score. So far it looks like it might be a Chainsaw I am looking for. Any suggestions on how to drill it if I decide to go with one? My friends was drilled CG out with the pin under the ring finger if I remember correctly. Again I am looking fo r very good length with a strong smooth arc, not skid snap.
Title: Re: Dry Lane Ball
Post by: Nicanor on December 19, 2009, 08:43:44 AM
Usually when this discussion comes up we talk about the XXXL and the Starburst for a dry lane ball.  Unfortunately one man''s dry lane ball is another man''s medium oil ball.  Depending on speed, release, drilling and surface prep all contribute to how a ball is going to handle a specific lane condition.  I like the THS.  I think the THS can be drilled and the surface prep can handle the light oil and possibly the short oil, but dry lanes, I mean dry lanes, the XXXL series works the best for me.
 
Even the XXXL can be too much ball if you don''t keep the surface cleaned and polished and/or drill the ball too strong. Bowlers today seem to shy away from plastic almost at any cost rather then to throw a plastic for a strike.


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Title: Re: Dry Lane Ball
Post by: Roy Munson on December 19, 2009, 08:57:22 AM
I drilled mine with pin an inch over bridge and cg kicked out at 45*
It allows me to from the 1st board to the 7th board comfortably.
Great for when the heads are dry.
Title: Re: Dry Lane Ball
Post by: T-GOD on December 20, 2009, 11:27:38 AM
How much different from your friends ball would you want a new one to be..? =:^D
Title: Re: Dry Lane Ball
Post by: Den Olano on December 20, 2009, 12:50:11 PM
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How much different from your friends ball would you want a new one to be..? =:^D


It definitely got the length I am looking for but it didn't quite finish enough for me.
Title: Re: Dry Lane Ball
Post by: Randy T on December 20, 2009, 02:43:43 PM
Chainsaw on Secret Sauce is a killer on drier lanes
Title: Re: Dry Lane Ball
Post by: T-GOD on December 20, 2009, 08:24:59 PM
Den, the chainsaw is not going to finish really strong, that's the beauty of the ball. Having stronger statics and weight hole placements if necessary will increase the strength of the backend.

Remember, this ball is designed to give you less backend so you can line up closer to the dry. I wouldn't worry too much about the hook as much as how much my score is going up compared to my other balls. =:^D
Title: Re: Dry Lane Ball
Post by: LaneHammer20 on December 20, 2009, 09:43:09 PM
I would put my Lane masters Hornet up against a Chainsaw any day of my life.

There is no better ball for dry lanes than the Hornet. Have tried many, nothing compares.

If you want a dry lane ball that has unreal carry, then find one over the internet.
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Title: Re: Dry Lane Ball
Post by: mcdjrbps on December 20, 2009, 10:27:45 PM
I felt the chainsaw was weaker then the H2O....but i drilled the chainsaw extremly weak.....Beans has a H2O in 16lbs if your interested....RandyT had a good idea with the chainsaw on sauce...
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